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    Ayuhra's Avatar
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    If we opened the door on gear I'd want to somehow use WoW's transmog system instead of our current glamour system where you learn an item's appearance.

    We can still use glamour prisms to "learn" the appearance (and bind the item in doing so) and maybe also to apply the appearance. Plates could still be used to save outfits. I don't want to mess up the prism economy too badly, I just don't want to have to keep the actual gear anymore.
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    King Canadane
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    I’ve been against removal of restrictions forever.
    I also advocate for MORE racial locked or gender locked gear. As long as each gender or race gets equal amounts we would see an increase in variety when viewing a random sample of a crowd.
    Restrictions on the individual level only leads to more creativity.

    Letting everyone use anything only brings downsides imo
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I’ve been against removal of restrictions forever.
    I also advocate for MORE racial locked or gender locked gear. As long as each gender or race gets equal amounts we would see an increase in variety when viewing a random sample of a crowd.
    Restrictions on the individual level only leads to more creativity.

    Letting everyone use anything only brings downsides imo
    Downsides such as... *tumbleweed rolls by*

    Not letting everyone use everything on the other hand gives us the downside of repeatedly see the devs ignore the very selfsame rules enforced on us players.
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    Jin Wa
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    Odin
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    Depends. I'm heavily against removing gender locked gear. In some cases it makes sense when the outfits are unisex style but when they are clearly designed for only one of the genders then it's too far.

    However I do wish we had some freedom in class gear, not full freedom but some. Maybe 2 heavy armor pieces max for Ninja glamours and so on
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    Remove all restrictions.
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    Riamara Skye
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    I am glad we have a new thread about the same exact topic as another thread that is already on the front page. We really needed this. Beat that horse.
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    I am in favor of MORE race gear! I love that there are certain glams that are unique to your race, racial gear is the game's chance to really play up the aesthetics of a race.

    I have nothing against gender locking stuff, cause if they didn't females wouldn't get half the girly shet they do. In all the praise I saw for them making the 2B coffer gear look the same for both genders I noticed no one really thought about male players who don't want to crossplay and was expecting a "cool thing designed for them" that they could wear. I saw it a number of times, people being let down that they won a useless glam prize. That's kinda why gender locking is a thing, so that dudes aren't asked to wear female stuff and female characters can have girly stuff. I'm ok with them having interns or w/e unlock things in the background like they are doing now but I've no problem sucking it up that my female can't always have a dapper glam.

    For job gear I'm fine with restrictions but think Ranged and Nin need over-lap. Like ... they kinda fucked up Ranged gear via having all the Ranged jobs want the same stats. What's BIS for one is the same for the other 2 from what I see in most cases so I feel like the jobs could use some tweaking and maybe let Nin wear their gear and let them wear Nin gear. Mainly cause Nin sets look more Dnc than most ranged sets. They could do that OR just make Dnc wear Nin gear instead of ranged. But that's as far as that goes, never really cared for the idea of making Job gear a free-4-all.

    Devs also like to reuse past gear designs for different jobs when they can, as filler gear for dngs so it's a means to stretch out resources.
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 01-04-2021 at 09:04 PM.

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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    I have nothing against gender locking stuff, cause if they didn't females wouldn't get half the girly shet they do. In all the praise I saw for them making the 2B coffer gear look the same for both genders I noticed no one really thought about male players who don't want to crossplay and was expecting a "cool thing designed for them" that they could wear. I saw it a number of times, people being let down that they won a useless glam prize. That's kinda why gender locking is a thing, so that dudes aren't asked to wear female stuff and female characters can have girly stuff. I'm ok with them having interns or w/e unlock things in the background like they are doing now but I've no problem sucking it up that my female can't always have a dapper glam.
    Female charcters would still get all the girly shet they got, only that males could also wear it and vice-versa. There have been way to many instances in this game where i have gotten a piece of armor i like and then when i equip it the pants for some obnoxious reason is turned into a skirt. The school outfit is how it should be. Want feminine clothing but playing a male char? No problem. Want masculine clothing but playing a female char? Again no problem.

    And funny enough, male characters do in fact get both the male and female versions of the Yohra gear from copied factory, only that the male versions are role and sex locked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Female charcters would still get all the girly shet they got, only that males could also wear it and vice-versa. There have been way to many instances in this game where i have gotten a piece of armor i like and then when i equip it the pants for some obnoxious reason is turned into a skirt. The school outfit is how it should be. Want feminine clothing but playing a male char? No problem. Want masculine clothing but playing a female char? Again no problem.

    And funny enough, male characters do in fact get both the male and female versions of the Yohra gear from copied factory, only that the male versions are role and sex locked.
    That only works if you live in a lala land where the devs are going to release twice the amount of gear in the same amount of time. Without gender locking they would make ONE version everyone can wear and end it there. That version would prob default to male most all the time because asking every dude in the game to do content for the reward of wearing something like this female version of this outfit would not go over well and would alienate a long amount of the playerbase.

    The school outfit is actually a great example of why they don't do this when releasing stuff in game. Like hey, it's great that they made the boy and girl outfit work on both genders! I like that! But ... it's on the mogstation. If you want to mix and match then "TY for paying ...$36!" (If you just wanna buy 1 then "TY for $18!"). They don't get any more money from doing twice the amount of work just to let females have this dapper top and males wear this dress in a completely free in game event. Tis why I'm cool with them slowly having people work in the back ground to get some things to work on the other gender, it takes time and resources to make all this stuff work on a different gender.

    Also, the gear in copied factory is gender locked, what you're thinking of is Puppets bunker ... which is mostly male leaning gear or gender natural and the only female leaning gear is still altered for men.
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 01-05-2021 at 06:59 AM.

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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    That only works if you live in a lala land where the devs are going to release twice the amount of gear in the same amount of time.
    Lala land? They are already releasing twice tha mount of gear in the same amount of time because of genderlocked variants. Neo-Ishgardian rigns a bell? Latest Eden set too.

    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Without gender locking they would make ONE version everyone can wear and end it there. That version would prob default to male most all the time because asking every dude in the game to do content for the reward of wearing something like this female version of this outfit would not go over well and would alienate a long amount of the playerbase.
    And another example of them releasing two different armors in the same amount of time! While ignoring the sheer amount of players happy to actually get to wear a pair of skirt as a male character for once as seen with the school outfit. Not to mention the female players being allowed to wear PANTS! Was so unbelivably frustrated when we got that sleek looking scion outfit, only for the pants showing a very clear icon of pants become turned into a skirt...

    But ok... let's live in thy lala land and assume we only got one of those set that valentine... aaaand the next valentine we got the other set. There, problem solved and everyone happy. You are making an faulty assumption that the gear would only be made with males in mind.

    The payment fee is for the school outfit and most other mogstation content is something i am against. But the cost seems to be the way for gear they "can't" find ways to add to the game because reasons...

    And for the nier sets, i was explicitly talking about 2b's outfit where at least female characters are stuck with variants of 2B's outfit while male get both her outfit and a dope looking jacket.
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