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    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Who doesnt want gear restrictions removed?

    Ok so this isn’t a troll topic first of all. It came up in a thread about the Hempen Sets that the ‘majority opinion’ from the player base was that ‘we’ want a lot of changes such as:

    - letting any race use any of the hempen sets
    - letting any job wear any other jobs item of clothing
    - no gender locked gear etc etc

    I brought up that personally I’m against a lot of this stuff as I prefer some semblance of realism and would rather devs spent time on other things. I’d also like to see more race/job specific stuff and believe I’m not alone in this.

    I feel that I personally don’t always feel comfortable in voicing that because the people who want these changes can be a little argumentative. They don’t get much opposition and I feel that they shout it down if they do. So with respect I’d ask them to stay out of this thread and find out once and for all - who is happy with these sorts of restrictions and doesn’t want to see such changes to the game?
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    Anienai Talenca
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    I'm fine either way.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

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    Raltar Arianrhod
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I am of the opinion that role gear(fending, aiming, ect.) and class specific gear should be restricted. I am all for getting rid of race and gender restrictions, however.

    EDIT: I should note that if removing race and gender restrictions takes even 1 minute of manpower away from another aspect of the game, I am against it. But if it is literally flipping a switch, go for it. But if they have to make a model for each race/gender, I don't think they should waste time on current things and just make all future stuff race and gender neutral.
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    Last edited by Raltar; 01-04-2021 at 02:40 PM.

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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    I'm against it.
    From what I understand of ARR's messy coding it's actually impossible to change what jobs can equip gear. That's why they had to make a replica set for the sky pirates stuff so they could make it equippable by everyone.

    I don't want them to waste time and flood the game with a replica version of every existing piece.
    I also don't want them to start the monumental undertaking of revamping the coding to be able to change what jobs can equip what existing gear. To me it's not worth the time it would take them from other things. I just think of the restrictions as an interesting glamming challenge.

    As far as what they do moving forward . . . I think they'll keep introducing job locked pieces if only because they're intent on not having tanks equip maiming pieces for the stats and such and I'm fine with that.
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    Xeorran Kalia'shearra
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    Gilgamesh
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    If the devs had the time and the resources I'd love for more focus on Race and cultural restricted gear, I'd love it if we got more than the one AF set each expansion for the jobs and land and hand too.
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    Wondrous Waifu
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I personally love a lot the artifact job sets, but the race specific gear right now in FF is honestly horrid, cause none of it actually looks like it should be exclusive to that race for any realistic reason.

    And the reason why in my opinion is because the game generally fails to immediately immerse you in your races culture in the way that Guild Wars 2 does, instead it immerses you in the city-states. No one really complains about grand company armor being locked to those factions, why? Well first off because it's trivial to switch between them, but I think it's also because you are immediately immersed into the culture of the major starting cities, and you quickly see that those outfits represent a kind of military force, they have reason and purpose for existing that you can immediately see and understand in the world.

    Hempen sets don't really work that way cause they're just essentially underwear. And the starter sets just barely scrape by on being unique enough to warrant being locked, just barely. (I know, the lore book goes into a tiny amount of detail with them.)
    As much as I would love to see thoughtful and interesting race specific sets, I have zero faith in SE to actually deliver on it. I do however believe in them for city-state themed sets, as they've shown they can do those well.
    And as for job gear I never saw to great of a reason why generic job armor is locked, I would be fine with it being unlocked so long as you have that job leveled to use it. But artifact gear should absolutely never be unlocked. It just makes sense to exist on only that job, it was designed for that job in mind and is more or less a status symbol for that job, generic armor is only locked to adhere to generic RPG rules rather than in world rules.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Like I said in the other thread, whether you are for or against restriction removal, I don't find either viewpoint is wrong or right. I'm not quite sure that an exclusive thread for those who are against it is warranted, but can understand if those views feel drowned out by an overwhelming majority. The thing about that kind of thread, is that it kind of proves the point for a lot of those who want the restrictions removed.

    What I will bring up here is that at the end of the day, what I try to focus on is being appreciative of the enjoyment the game brings instead of placing that energy in the things I would like changed. As it turns out though, a lot of that conserved energy just ends up going into expressing my side of things to those who feel differently. Advice I can give is if you feel you're repeating yourself, or stating the same arguments you have in another thread with the same/similar topic, it might be best to just bow out in order to save that energy.

    As I said before, there is not really a wrong or right here, so those who do place their focus on what they would like changed are not misplacing it. There could be repercussions to their desired changes that they may not be aware of though. On the other side of that coin however, there could be benefits to their desired changes that those for restrictions are also not aware of. It just requires a little listening for arguments to be constructive instead of the other way around.
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    Jin Wa
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Depends. I'm heavily against removing gender locked gear. In some cases it makes sense when the outfits are unisex style but when they are clearly designed for only one of the genders then it's too far.

    However I do wish we had some freedom in class gear, not full freedom but some. Maybe 2 heavy armor pieces max for Ninja glamours and so on
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Remove all restrictions.
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Just by the way the game handle items a universal removal will never happen and almost every item will need a replica. Many players level certain classes just to have access to X glamour and I guess that's a positive for SE. I also consider worth mentioning that gear restrictions are a design choice, one that has been there since release.

    Anyway, I personally think they will keep release unrestricted replicas but limitations will never be removed.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 01-04-2021 at 06:30 PM.

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