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    The Heavensturn Chart (2021)

    It's time for our yearly check in o- what? Did we really miss last year?
    I need grad school to end, already...

    Evergreen shite-post by Lubbydubs

    2010------------Tiger
    2011--Halone----Rabbit--1.x War with the Empire
    2012--Althyk----Dragon--1.x Beyond time and space
    2013------------Snake---N/A
    2014--Nophica---Horse---2.1 A bountiful rebirth
    2015--Menphina--Sheep---2.4 Off to Coerthas
    2016--Thaliak---Monkey--3.1 Preoccupied in the Dravanian hinterlands
    2017--Rhalgr----Cock----3.4 Off to Ala Mhigo
    2018--Nymeia----Dog-----4.1 The fate of the Star
    2019--Nald'thal-Pig-----4.4 Mortal/Ascian, Life/Death
    2020--Byregot---Rat-----5.1 Building a new future; clockwork tower
    2021--Oschon----Ox------5.4 A Traveler wandering to new lands...
    2022------------Tiger

    HaloneMenphinaThaliakNymeia • Llymlaen • Oschon
    ByregotRhalgr • Azeyma • Nald'thalNophicaAlthyk
    That leaves only Llymlaen and Azeyma for contenders the Year of the Snake 2013. I say Llymlaen. Navigating to a new world and future for FFXIV. Though with all the Lominsan stuff in 5.4, as if they'll be a key player again soon, I half wonder if it should have been Llymlaen this year and Oschon for 2013. Anyroad, that'd free up Azeyma for 6.1 to 6.4... Azem's inheritance.
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    oh gross, in hindsight Byregot and his stupid tower is a great reference to the importance of the Crystal Tower to 5.3 isn't it

    the Wanderer means we're gonna step on some fish in 2021, eh?
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    Planned all along.™
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Planned all along.™
    Azeyma ending the sequence of Heavensturn was foreshadowing the Warrior of Light's seat of Azem all the way back in 2011. We just hadn't extrapolated the possibility yet.
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    Traveler wandering to New lands hopefully means they pull back the mists on the map and finally take us to Islabard. I really do not want to wait another expansion all the while the mists remain there even though we have been to multiple areas inside them already like Dalmascus, Bozja, and Werlyt.

    Beyond that I think ending it on Azeyma who along with Azim where heavily implied to be inspired by Azem would be fitting, since the WoL is the reincarnation of Azem. Perhaps this entails them regaining some of their memories from that previous life to understand why they also did not side with Hydalyn, as well as a better understanding on the nature of the sound which I imagine will be a threat after the Hydalyn/Zodiark storyline concludes in 6.x, and also understand what Azem's neutral plan was all along to perhaps deal with it without Hydalyn/Zodiarks aid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrightfulNight View Post
    Traveler wandering to New lands hopefully means they pull back the mists on the map and finally take us to Islabard. I really do not want to wait another expansion all the while the mists remain there even though we have been to multiple areas inside them already like Dalmascus, Bozja, and Werlyt.

    Beyond that I think ending it on Azeyma who along with Azim where heavily implied to be inspired by Azem would be fitting, since the WoL is the reincarnation of Azem. Perhaps this entails them regaining some of their memories from that previous life to understand why they also did not side with Hydalyn, as well as a better understanding on the nature of the sound which I imagine will be a threat after the Hydalyn/Zodiark storyline concludes in 6.x, and also understand what Azem's neutral plan was all along to perhaps deal with it without Hydalyn/Zodiarks aid.
    Dalmasca is actually in the Southern part of Othard and after 5.4, I really doubt we'll be heading too deep into Ilsabard. It would be nice if they could at least lift the fog over the easternmost and westernmost regions since we have started moving in on it slightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldStarz View Post
    Dalmasca is actually in the Southern part of Othard and after 5.4, I really doubt we'll be heading too deep into Ilsabard. It would be nice if they could at least lift the fog over the easternmost and westernmost regions since we have started moving in on it slightly.
    Actually after 5.4 it seems even more likely that we are going there,
    these towers are popping up everywhere and as mentioned in the story, it is not only unique to Eorzea, Orthard is effected as well as seen by the one in Yanxia. this means there might be more all over the three continents and seeing the damage they are causing it makes the most sense to put a stop to them at the source. plus Fandaniel all but said if you want to stop this you have to go fight Zenos at the heart of Chaos which is almost assuredly the Garlean Capitol, in Islabard as the entire continent is still embroiled in massive conflict and it is where the towers are being made. also they already did a misdirect once before i doubt they would do it twice, that would be repetitive. And since we are ending the Heavensturn event cycle on Azeyma who was partially inspired by Azem, which will hit most likely in the new expansion and that SE has long said 6.0 isa the end of the season 1 plotline it would make the most sense to wrap up as many season 1 plot threads as possible, plus they already have areas in Islabard made.
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    All that is gold does not glitter,
    Not all those who wander are lost;
    The old that is strong does not wither,
    Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

    Ehem, well, I suppose we're going to do even more traveling in the next expansion, wither it or not be Forspoken, than in Stormblood.
    Perhaps to deal with every tower around the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    That leaves only Llymlaen and Azeyma for contenders the Year of the Snake 2013. I say Llymlaen. Navigating to a new world and future for FFXIV. Though with all the Lominsan stuff in 5.4, as if they'll be a key player again soon, I half wonder if it should have been Llymlaen this year and Oschon for 2013.
    Llymlaen works for Year of the Snake since she is associated with the sea serpents Thalaos and Perykos.

    Also technically "wandering to new lands" would be equally apt for every odd-numbered year with a new expansion approaching but then this is a horoscope so that kind of significance is par for the course.


    Also assuming Azeyma takes Year of the Tiger, some interesting (if probably coincidental) symbolism, given how much we fight dragons:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger#Cultural_depictions
    In Chinese art, the tiger is depicted as an earth symbol and equal rival of the Chinese dragon – the two representing matter and spirit respectively. [...] In Imperial China, a tiger was the personification of war and often represented the highest army general while the emperor and empress were represented by a dragon and phoenix, respectively.
    And I'm probably cherry-picking, and haven't read up on the other zodiac animals, but this line stood out in the longer article.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_in_Chinese_culture
    People born in the Year of the Tiger are thought to be brave, strong, stubborn and sympathetic. The tiger represents the greatest earthly power, as well as protection over human life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    It's time for our yearly check in o- what? Did we really miss last year?
    I need grad school to end, already...

    Evergreen shite-post by Lubbydubs

    That leaves only Llymlaen and Azeyma for contenders the Year of the Snake 2013. I say Llymlaen. Navigating to a new world and future for FFXIV. Though with all the Lominsan stuff in 5.4, as if they'll be a key player again soon, I half wonder if it should have been Llymlaen this year and Oschon for 2013. Anyroad, that'd free up Azeyma for 6.1 to 6.4... Azem's inheritance.
    Good to know I'm not the only one that is figuring this out. I think I can fill in the rest of this from here though...

    2011 - Rabbit = Halone
    2012 - Dragon = Althyk
    2013 - Snake = Llymlaen
    2014 - Horse = Nophica
    2015 - Sheep = Menphina
    2016 - Monkey = Thaliak
    2017 - Chicken = Rhalgr
    2018 - Dog = Nymeia
    2019 - Pig = Nald'thal
    2020 - Rat = Byregot
    2021 - Ox = Oschon
    -------------------------
    2022 - Tiger = Azeyma
    2023 - Rabbit = Halone
    2024 - Dragon = Althyk
    2025 - Snake = Llymlaen


    Given the nature of Tigers/Lions being associated with Fire, plus the Monk's relation to martial arts, the Fist of Fire ability which is probably related to the Shaolin Tiger stance... putting all of that together, we can assume that Tiger would probably be associated with Azeyma. As for Snakes, the idea of Snakes being related to dragons along with the trial "The Wreath of Snakes" involving Seiryu where the battle is situated by a waterfall, as well as, the second phase being held at on an platform/island surrounded by water, it is more than likely that Snake is associated with Llymlaen. The only thing I actually haven't figured out though is why is the order of these Twelve pantheons are out of order. I wonder if written on paper in a circle that they would connect to form a star...
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    Epicness...

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57865-Summary-of-the-FFXIV-ARR-EO%28r%29%28z%29AE-Trailer

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