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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Do we have reason to think that Venat still resides in Hydaelyn? I don't think we've been given a lot of evidence that she doesn't.
    Venat does say that she'll appear again in a new form. The implication is that she was the original soul of Minfilia.

    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    There's reason to believe that ability to Temper might have been something the Convocation added on purpose - the world's woes were being caused by uncontrolled Creation magic, after all, so one way to combat the problem would be to create an entity that can impose his own control over individuals.
    I don't really think that's accurate at all to the issue of the Sound and the Final Days. Creation magic running rampant was more of a symptom than a cause, and we have good reason to believe that Zodiark's tempering wasn't some intentional inclusion to restrict creation magic, as evidenced by the Anyder using creation magic to summon Hydaelyn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't see any reason to call them that as an organisation. Unless I'm misinterpreting, they use that term as a short form for the Anamnesis Anyder, which is odd anyway because there are at least two different locations in Amaurot with the suffix - the other being the Akadaemia which seems to be the base for the Convocation.
    I'm vaguely of the belief that the Akadaemia and the Anamnesis are really just two branches of the college, and since they were the ones that summoned Hydaelyn calling them the Anyder is about as good as anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    The Anyder
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Unless I'm misinterpreting, they use that term as a short form for the Anamnesis Anyder, which is odd anyway because there are at least two different locations in Amaurot with the suffix - the other being the Akadaemia which seems to be the base for the Convocation.
    This is getting a bit off-topic, but in Thomas More's Utopia, Hythlodaeus describes the Anyder as a large river near which the capital city of Amaurot was built.
    Similarly, our Anyder may have also been a river, with these two facilities built on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamfisher View Post
    This is getting a bit off-topic, but in Thomas More's Utopia, Hythlodaeus describes the Anyder as a large river near which the capital city of Amaurot was built.
    Similarly, our Anyder may have also been a river, with these two facilities built on it.
    No, the explanation of Anyder is even simplifier. Anyder means "water-less" and both dungeons attached with the name Anyder are places under the ocean that have had the water removed so we could explore them.

    Anyder is also mentioned in Thomas More's Utopia as the name of a river on his Utopian island; the implication in the context of More's work is a source of water for his perfect society has all the positive benefits (clean drinking water, places to wash clothes, irrigate crops) but none of the bad (flooding, drowning, washing things away), in other words the only thing a water less river could provide. The reference is cool because Emet thinks of Amarout as a Utopia, so we get names like Akadaemia Andyer, instead of Sunken Akadaemia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    No, the explanation of Anyder is even simplifier. Anyder means "water-less" and both dungeons attached with the name Anyder are places under the ocean that have had the water removed so we could explore them.

    Anyder is also mentioned in Thomas More's Utopia as the name of a river on his Utopian island; the implication in the context of More's work is a source of water for his perfect society has all the positive benefits (clean drinking water, places to wash clothes, irrigate crops) but none of the bad (flooding, drowning, washing things away), in other words the only thing a water less river could provide. The reference is cool because Emet thinks of Amarout as a Utopia, so we get names like Akadaemia Andyer, instead of Sunken Akadaemia.
    I haaad started to think along these lines, but stopped myself for fear of over-speculating.
    When you consider the etymology of Amaurot and how perfectly that fits with a reimagined city filled with phantoms, you could easily be onto something. I like your thinking, Uplander!

    Also, the way
    Deep in the Tempest─deeper still than the phantom Amaurot of Emet-Selch's design─lies what remains of Anyder's ancient edifices.
    is phrased doesn't really sound like it's describing a river to me. Maybe I just got my hopes up because Gobbiekin build stops long and short along rivers.
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