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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm not sure why you're thinking Venat figures into the symbolism of the Eden fight - she's never talked about there. Ryne's form is just representing Hydaelyn's Light as opposed to Shiva's ice, perhaps with a nod back to her blonde appearance while she was Minfilia's vessel.
    Only due to Venat being Hydaelyn's heart. Shiva as a primal retained a portion of her physical likeness. Why wouldn't the same go for Venat as Hydaelyn? Nothing in this game is coincidental. SE has always been extremely careful when it comes to details.


    Take the Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow reference for example. You posted it in regard to Kesey's post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm not that good on Shakespeare references so I had to look that up.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1533/1533-h/1533-h.htm

    Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
    Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
    To the last syllable of recorded time;
    And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
    The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
    Life’s but a walking shadow; a poor player,
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.


    It doesn't really fit with the song to me, besides a loose similarity about life being ephemeral - but this is regretful and the song is more joyous, about living on in memory.

    Authors of our fates
    Orchestrate our fall from grace
    Poorest players on the stage
    Our defiance drives us straight to the edge
    A reflection in the glass
    Recollections of our past
    Swift as darkness, cold as ash
    Far beyond this dream of paradise lost



    These lyrics, taken from the Shadowbringers theme along with the lyrics to Tomorrow and Tomorrow, are in sync with each another. He's right. Emet had a change of heart the moment he had made the Fourteenth's stone in secret. He wanted a better way forward. He only asked not to forget them and to learn from their mistakes. The "Swift as darkness, cold as ash" is about rash actions and their results.

    Rock of ages, we cast the first stone
    In our cages, we know not what we do

    Indecision here at the crossroads
    Recognition, tomorrow's come too soon

    Follow blindly like lambs to slaughter
    At the mercy of those who ply the sword

    As our song wends dead underwater
    We're forgotten for now and evermore


    See? It all connects to each other. Every detail compliments the other.


    Edited, Sorry Iscah. I had yet to finish the post.
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    Last edited by Riastrad; 01-16-2021 at 01:20 AM.