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    E12S Mount Music -- please use p2 music

    *partial spoilers warning*

    Finishing the newest raid tier with a 2-chest clear nets you a roll at Eden Crystal and The Extreme Orchestrion Roll. The first is a new mount, and the second is a music so hype that at the moment of this writing still holds about 1.7M marketboard value.

    The music, which begins playing as you begin and prog through part2, is in fact so good, that you can't be mad at anyone after a wipe. Unfortunately, friends who have won the Eden mount tell me its music is that of part1.

    From a lore perspective, ok, maybe it kinda makes sense that you're given the part1 music, since you're on an Eden mount which is the featured enemy of part1. It's only after you defeat Eden that you're vaulted into part2 and face Gaia alone to experience her hype piano, strings, drums, and even some guitar riffs (The Extreme -- Gaia's music basically).

    From fan point of view, however.... PLEASE , I want p2 music for the new mount! I can only cite precedent of Omega's final fight, O12S, having the Omega mount play its part2 music.

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    Absolutely should be The Extreme. Ultimate FF8 summon mount that doesn't play FF8 final boss music? Ridiculous. Promises to Keep is okay, but it's nothing special and the signature FF8 mount should play the signature FF8 boss theme. That is also one of the best boss themes in the entire series. C'mon.....
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    The raids reference FF8, but Eden itself/themself isn't.
    I think its appropriate they play phase 1 music for the mount, plus part 1 is just better as mount music in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    The raids reference FF8, but Eden itself/themself isn't.
    I think its appropriate they play phase 1 music for the mount, plus part 1 is just better as mount music in general.
    ...Eden itself is the biggest FF8 reference in the entire raid, and the second biggest one in FFXIV besides Squall's outfit. It absolutely should play a signature FF8 theme. It'd be like the Air Force not playing Dancing Mad or Alte Roite not playing Neo Exdeath's theme (which was in fact the case originally until the changed it after fans complained). Alexander and Omega are different because the battle themes for both parts of both their fights are entirely original and could go either way for the mount music. Eden should flat out be playing The Extreme, no buts about it. Whether the music "sounds like mount music" has never been a deciding factor on what music a mount plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    ...Eden itself is the biggest FF8 reference in the entire raid, and the second biggest one in FFXIV besides Squall's outfit.
    I must be blanking.
    In what way is the Ascian's sin eater form an FF8 referencs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    I must be blanking.
    In what way is the Ascian's sin eater form an FF8 referencs?
    Eden Prime and the mount is the eikon from FF8.

    The ascian's sin eater form : you're referencing Eden 12N / 12S Part 1 ? It is the representation of godess Artemisia, which is also Ultimecia's name in Jap (but lost in translation, maybe because they didn't want any pagan references in a game mostly children would play in the US).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
    Eden Prime and the mount is the eikon from FF8.
    Which eikon is that? (it's been awhile since I played 8)

    Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
    The ascian's sin eater form : you're referencing Eden 12N / 12S Part 1 ?
    Nah, by "sin eater form" I mean the giant ship sin eater thing the ascian turned into. The one we get a mount of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Which eikon is that? (it's been awhile since I played 8)
    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Eden_(summon)

    The mount we get is basically the same as the FF8 summon. Also Eden Prime's Eternal Breath ulti is similar to the Eternal Breath the FF8 summon uses. It's pure FF8 reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Eden_(summon)

    The mount we get is basically the same as the FF8 summon. Also Eden Prime's Eternal Breath ulti is similar to the Eternal Breath the FF8 summon uses. It's pure FF8 reference.
    Oh shit them!
    They're like the splitting image! How did I never make that connection?
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    Last edited by ItMe; 01-05-2021 at 10:48 AM.