PLD IS NOT BROKEN

[Judge_Xero]

WAR ='s Epic, PLD ='s less Impressive

Was doing some SB in Natalan the other day. My one LS member was joining in, he's a WAR.
We were like need us to meet you at the Gates? He's like, no worries.

So he just casually solos his way to the Wolf Pen in Natalan.

PLD would last for a while, but I just don't see them taking down the Gatekeepers quick enough to stay alive and lose claim on following mobs. Guess they could use Hollowed Ground to help a bit.

Maybe they should give PLD Rampage and an awesome AOE attack.

Hollowed Ground would be sweet if it had a lower cooldown (or lasted longer), and it also gave a buff to
party members in range (kind of like Cover) It would make PLD the ultimate party protector.

Why sholdn't PLD have an AOE Cover that negates all Physical Damage and restores MP to itself for each attack absorbed?

I agree that PLD isn't broken. It's just not greatness.
Can't wait to see what changes happen to PLD. It deserves to be epic too.

[ChickNorris]

Yes...because we needed another thread on this topic. :::thinks of new things to add:::

Every DD holds back no matter what job the tank is...period. Collusion and Cover are there for a reason.

Every time we have had changes to game, some job is deemed useless or less than efficient and one is heralded. These "issues" people are having are not with the game, but the social stature and focus of the people playing around them.

[SwordCoheir]

Every time we have had changes to game, some job is deemed useless or less than efficient and one is heralded. These "issues" people are having are not with the game, but the social stature and focus of the people playing around them.

To be fair that is true to an extent CN, however most have stated valid reasons in full detail why PLD's design is currently flawed. It's not that the job doesn't function, but when SE rebuilt jobs and had developed PLD some of the changes don't stack up. Some of the examples are

-Parry Mitigation destroys Block Mitigation
-No real difference defensively between the two jobs
-Being forced to use a shield to utilize half our abilities, and losing our ability to parry in the process.

that's really just the tip of the iceberg. I really wish it was just some social ladder bs that keeps PLD from shining, but in this case it really is justified.

[Telvorei]

Yes...because we needed another thread on this topic. :::thinks of new things to add:::

Every DD holds back no matter what job the tank is...period. Collusion and Cover are there for a reason.

Every time we have had changes to game, some job is deemed useless or less than efficient and one is heralded. These "issues" people are having are not with the game, but the social stature and focus of the people playing around them.

This.

In my honest opinion, I think every DoW/DoM class should be viable to take along. Paladin included. Sure, have situations where it is beneficial to have certain ones over others... but ultimately, excluding jobs or forcing people to play other jobs they don't want to play in order to do content is just bad game design imo.

[GreyJorildyn]

While I don't really think PLD is necessarily broken, it is less efficient in a lot of instances. It's really not that hard to run AV or CC with a PLD. My group does it in 18-20minutes with a WAR tank and I'm pretty sure putting a PLD in there would not change the finish time by much.

The scenarios provided often lack context. In a group of consistent players things are vastly different than PUGs. We can never forget that.

OP's ideas in inane as usual. We should probably stop falling for that troll bait.

[Momita]

Try Coincounter

after /tell <me>

[Madruk]

What a shock, people defending paladin haven't done a speed run yet.

Edit: Hell some of them haven't even beaten the dungeon in a normal run yet.

[Karazaki]

EDIT: I don't want to be involved in this nonsense thread.

[Klive]

^How paladin threads go.

[Euphoria]

PLEASE.