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    Quote Originally Posted by Verendal View Post
    Wouldn't fit. Necromancy is a hanging crime in all of Eorzea. Caught with it, you die. The WoL doesn't make a habit of committing what is seen as capitol crimes. Even black magic is only illegal in Gridania and we have significant reasons to get away with that, there is no defense for corpsemongering.
    Not just Gridania, it's a crime everywhere in Eorzea (especially Ul'dah, which, kind of created their own zombie apocalypse via alchemy centuries before during their war with Sil'dih and have since swept it under the rug, and have made great pains to keep it that way, so a Job that reminds everyone of that fact would not sit well with them at all). Also, and this is a very important point to remember, throughout much of the game's story the player's character the Warrior of Light has spent a good deal of their time outright stopping people mucking around with necromancy and other similar void magic, the game makes great pains to state within the lore "this is WRONG" and those doing so are criminals. So the WoL will never be one themselves.

    And ignore the claims SE have hinted at the Job in the Heroes' Gauntlet; the 'Spectral Necromancer' in that is actually meant to be a reference to Lenna's Necromancer appearence from the GBA version of FFV - the other two bosses are similar references (the 'Spectral Berserker' is one of the Onion Knights as Berserker from FFIII, and the 'Spectral Thief' is none other than Locke from FFVI).

    And just like why ROG was not called 'Thief' here in FFXIV, as Yoshi felt being a thief would not fit the image of the WoL, an outcast mage raising the dead as thralls simply goes against everything the WoL stands for here (even other 'dark' Jobs in this game really aren't if you actually look at them - BLM merely piggybacks on THM, and DRK is actually drawing on emotions, both good and bad, and are not actually evil at all). Necromancer simply does not fit.

    And the final nail in the coffin (pun intended) to the OP: your idea is a pet Job, and Yoshi has stated how much he dislikes pet Jobs as they are extremely difficult to balance and take up extra development time to work out, so you simply will not see any more pet Jobs in the game I'm sorry to say (ACN's Carbuncles, SMN's egi/demi summons, SCH's faeries and MCH's turrets will be the limit of that).
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    Read what I said. Black magic is only illegal in one place. Necromancy is illegal EVERYWHERE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verendal View Post
    Read what I said. Black magic is only illegal in one place. Necromancy is illegal EVERYWHERE.
    And yet, exceptions COULD happen. The lore isn't set in stone. One day the Alliance could have need of Necromancers who summon spirits of the dead to help combat some unknown threat.
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    You need to go run the story and sidequests again. That's not how death works in this game. Learn the lore before you try to cite it.

    EDIT:While we're at it do you have ANY idea what death smells like? Ever been near a rotting corpse? I have. It's horrible. Not something associated with heroes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verendal View Post
    You need to go run the story and sidequests again. That's not how death works in this game. Learn the lore before you try to cite it.
    Again, the lore isn't set in stone. They could make anything work to suit whatever narrative they're trying to tell. There wasn't a cure for primal tempering, and now there is. That's one of the more recent examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    There is a huge line between altering living aether, and bringing back the dead, even we die in battle we're not 'dead' we're down and need a burst of healing aether to get back up, that's what raise is. And that completely ignores the massive societal stigmas with corpsemongering, not to mention the absolutely horrific scent of death. Necromancy is absolutely a death sentence in this world, it is 'use it and we put a rope on your neck and pull it until you are removed from the living' and the nature of necromancy, of messing with the dead, something widely reviled in almost every culture real and fictional. It is not something we are going to get no matter how edgy you want to be, it does not *fit* in this world and SE is smart enough to avoid blatant, sudden reversals that go against *everything* regarding a certain cultural aspect. Even 'stop attacking giant dragons' is one that a lot of NPCs still resist often violently, how do you think people would react to 'hey let this person who smells like a putrid corpse, of rotting biological material, run free in town, and possibly mess with the corpse of your beloved fallen family'. Black magic to most is abstract 'That breaks things, and causes explosions, right?' versus 'This person could raise your dead family and force you to see them walking around, rotting, missing limbs, and destroying your memories of them'

    There is a MASSIVE societal stigma with the entire concept of it, and 'I wanna be edgy carry a scythe be a necromancer' does not and will not ever change it.

    EDIT:Also as someone else said Yoshi doesn't like pet jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    .

    And ignore the claims SE have hinted at the Job in the Heroes' Gauntlet; the 'Spectral Necromancer' in that is actually meant to be a reference to Lenna's Necromancer appearence from the GBA version of FFV - the other two bosses are similar references (the 'Spectral Berserker' is one of the Onion Knights as Berserker from FFIII, and the 'Spectral Thief' is none other than Locke from FFVI).
    Berserker wasn't a job in ff3 so im not sure how the beserker is an ff3 reference, if anything its another ff5 reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Berserker wasn't a job in ff3 so im not sure how the beserker is an ff3 reference, if anything its another ff5 reference.
    Doh, you're right, I was thinking of the similar earlier Job Viking that is in FFIII, so I stand corrected on that point. But my main arguement still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.