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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    The problem is that the relic is 10x faster to get outside of the instance. This promotes people only doing the southern front for the story and once you get lvl15 and have done castrum there really is no point in being in there unless you are grinding for the mount. But even the mounts are purchasable on the market board.

    The grind for the relic outside should be longer or at least on par with what it is in Bozja.

    They said the next step will be more of a grind that what this step was. But if it is once again easier to do outside of Bozja then we will have the same problem all over again.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    lol Liam you posted this on page one and I've been meaning to ask you but kept getting distracted. Sorry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Honestly, who cares. They're HW Fates, old content that can easily be soloed. Shouldn't the participation rate of un-soloable current expansion content tied to storyline and future instalments be more important?
    Since they were intent on making Bozja only one way of obtaining the relic, and wanted to give players another means of doing so, what do you think a more appropriate alternative path would have been?
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    Elise Marie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    This is an easy answer. The free trial.

    Free trial goes up to lvl 60 now. The FFXIV Developers want that content to seem "alive", so the put the most efficient way to get the relic there.

    HW open world content and lvl 60 dungeons, and the leveling dungeon for a daily bitter memory

    The fact they did it without outright admitting it chafes me a bit. It's blatantly obvious.
    They have the gathering and fishing mostly there for that relic too.. and people in Foundation for the crafting one.

    I do think ‘ishgard restoration’ was more to do with how popular the characters and things were though.
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I do understand the viewpoint that they’re using the relic to boost the HW areas so it looks better to people on the free trial.

    But it’s also fair to say a lot of people were angry about having to do Eureka for the relic, even when it was current. I personally have ARR and HW ones which I farmed retrospectively, but Eureka seems like way too much for someone coming in just now.

    So I guess they didn’t want to put the relic totally behind divisive content that may die in the future. But honestly I really like Bozja, and you could definetly solo a relic there so far.
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    Reksanden's Avatar
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    Myifee Asurai
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Hopefully, they'll keep these issues in mind for the next area - that is, if they don't address them in the Southern Front sooner than that.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Yeah, I had my fill of Heavensward back in Heavensward. I'm all for the game world being more populated but I think that should be done by making the game world itself more relevant in the long term. Some sort of archaeology system to encourage players to go visit older zones to dig for treasure, furniture, crafting materials and other goodies would be delightful.
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    Ayame Mizuki
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    Mateus
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    My big issues with the relic is the best way to get the memories is to do HW fates, so yay I get to sync down to level 60 lose a ton of my kit and grind out fates from 2 expansions ago. (If I want to do it quickly) or go to Bozja and grind out their fates and CE (which I do like these) and not be guaranteed the memories. I have no suggestions on how to make Bozja more fun, but they do need to buff the rate you get memories because your new shiny content (if you can call grinding fates in a new instance zone new and shiny) apparently is the worse way to get your relic and that's...that's not good.
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