Why do people bother dodging aoe during trash pulls?

[Starflake]

don't even have to GCD heal the tank either tbh lol

You don't. Tanks get hit for a very low amount of damage, especially when mitigating. It is in fact, in almost all cases a gain in DPS to eat the aoes in all classes in favour of getting more damage in.

[Roeshel]

The only class that arguably shouldn't be dodging aoes is BLM with ley lines,

Even if you don't dodge the AoE your next cast is still going to get interrupted, so you are losing one gcd one way or another.

[Ayuhra]

I can aoe just fine on the move, mate.

[Shibi]

I can aoe just fine on the move, mate.

I love that about DNC.

[Nethereal]

I mean you can do that but I'm not going to single target heal the DPS during a pull so if the oGCD AoE isn't enough to keep you off the pavement good luck.

[Gemina]

Dodging AoE even if it is non-lethal shows you have enough common courtesy to play the game correctly. It has nothing to do with whether or not the healer will adjust to your stupidity, and everything to do with stop being a lazy PoS, and play your job right.

[Starflake]

Dodging AoE even if it is non-lethal shows you have enough common courtesy to play the game correctly. It has nothing to do with whether or not the healer will adjust to your stupidity, and everything to do with stop being a lazy PoS, and play your job right.

This is simply not true. It's also not playing the game "correctly" either. If I can do 1000 DPS or 2000 DPS I will choose 2000 DPS even though I took an aoe or two to the face that nobody ever has to heal. This is exactly what it's like in Expert. In fact, I'd argue it's much more "correct" to stand in aoes if it means not dying (which you almost certainly won't) and doing the most damage because of it.

When it comes to laziness by the way, I advise you to look up a website I will not type out and check out your own performances. Being, more often than not the player with the lowest amount of buttons pressed per minute and poor uptime overall. Might have a thing or two to learn about productivity yourself

[Lumivyory]

When it comes to laziness by the way, I advise you to look up a website I will not type out and check out your own performances. Being, more often than not the player with the lowest amount of buttons pressed per minute and poor uptime overall. Might have a thing or two to learn about productivity yourself

I wish that website would be taken down already.
What happened to, you know, having fun? Who cares how much damage you do. So tired of people always in a rush in casual content, so boring. This is borderline elitist behavior imo, because then such people will bash at you or even kick you because you don't meet their "standards".

Savage content is probably the only place where I'd accept DPS actually trying to do as much damage as they can.

[Starflake]

I wish that website would be taken down already.
What happened to, you know, having fun? Who cares how much damage you do. So tired of people always in a rush in casual content, so boring. This is borderline elitist behavior imo, because then such people will bash at you or even kick you because you don't meet their "standards".

Savage content is probably the only place where I'd accept DPS actually trying to do as much damage as they can.

I guesss the extra depth that website gives to the speedrunning scene, world firsts, and overall improvement of the community doesn't count. I've never in my seven years of raiding in PF and with statics seen anyone get kicked because of that website. You're just making up a boogeyman. The discord is also full of helpful people and based on it, it has spawned a whole network in The Balance which main purpose it to help other players. Some of you guys need to relax and stop pretending this is all just doom and gloom.

The only elitist stance in all this was this other guy calling people lazy sobs and throwing some hypocrisy on there. Anyway, I'm not here to argue, I just wanted to point out the blatant hypocrisy of that person. Signing off.

[tdb]

This is simply not true. It's also not playing the game "correctly" either. If I can do 1000 DPS or 2000 DPS I will choose 2000 DPS even though I took an aoe or two to the face that nobody ever has to heal. This is exactly what it's like in Expert. In fact, I'd argue it's much more "correct" to stand in aoes if it means not dying (which you almost certainly won't) and doing the most damage because of it.

Fun facts time. Most AoEs in dungeon trash pulls are fairly close range. The classes which need to fight at close range have barely any abilities with cast times and can dodge AoEs while continuing to attack (provided the player is skilled enough to multitask). Meanwhile the classes which would be worst affected by having to dodge AoEs (casters) can fight further away so the AoEs mostly don't hit them. A BLM taking an occasional targeted AoE during a trash pull is fine. A NIN eating all the trash AoEs in Heroes' Gauntlet is not.

I guesss the extra depth that website gives to the speedrunning scene, world firsts, and overall improvement of the community doesn't count. I've never in my seven years of raiding in PF and with statics seen anyone get kicked because of that website.

We're talking about trash pulls in dungeons though, not endgame raids. There's almost no dungeon runs on that website. I have one recorded run and Gemina has two. The people who would care to use external tools for improving their skills are already good enough to pass any dungeon run with flying colors.