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    Klynwilf Spellrifter
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...699#post531699
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    「シーフは弓術士からの派生が自然と考えている」
    「暗黒騎士は剣術士からの派生、ナイトを極めたあとにクエストで取得。
    一度暗黒騎士になるとナイトには戻れないのもいいかも」
    Thinking of Thief coming from archer class.
    For dark knight coming from Gladiator class, have to complete Paladin to obtain the quest, maybe it's good where once you become dark knight you can't go back to Paladin.http://goo.gl/HKeRv by izayoi
    GLA might be Dark Knight after all. Not is set in stone yet though.
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    I would love to see Yoshi-P draw up a DRK design even if I had to wait months for it to release. I seen the DRG image way before 1.21 and just knew that would be my DRK in action one day.

    On another note, if DRK does come from GLA, will it be a Tank?

    My favorite role is Tanking and my favorite job is usually a DD, so it would be like killing two birds with one stone. Either way I really want a Demon race Dark Knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    I would love to see Yoshi-P draw up a DRK design even if I had to wait months for it to release. I seen the DRG image way before 1.21 and just knew that would be my DRK in action one day.

    On another note, if DRK does come from GLA, will it be a Tank?

    My favorite role is Tanking and my favorite job is usually a DD, so it would be like killing two birds with one stone. Either way I really want a Demon race Dark Knight.

    1. DRK is the complete opposite of PLD.
    2. It is illogical to make DRK a tank.
    3. DRK is better off coming off of Botanist long before it comes from GLA... what a horrible idea.

    I swear I feel like I'm paying to play a game the trolls me every moment of my playtime. Especially the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    1. DRK is the complete opposite of PLD.
    2. It is illogical to make DRK a tank.
    3. DRK is better off coming off of Botanist long before it comes from GLA... what a horrible idea.

    I swear I feel like I'm paying to play a game the trolls me every moment of my playtime. Especially the forums.
    most othe games Dark Knight is the DD tank. Everquest, Age of Conan, and Wow, and some korean ones that have whatever variation of Drk its a tank. Wars are the Hp Tanks, Pld are the Def tanks, Drk are DD tanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    some korean ones that have whatever variation of Drk its a tank
    Yup. Dark Avenger, AKA the tank that out-performed every other tank class in Lineage II by a mile between better defensive cooldowns, mitigation buffs like Majesty on top of better DPS through their dark panther summon.

    A dark knight archetype tanking is not exactly outlandish. Not to mention it never made sense to see a guy in all that armor take hits like a little girl.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    1. DRK is the complete opposite of PLD.
    2. It is illogical to make DRK a tank.
    3. DRK is better off coming off of Botanist long before it comes from GLA... what a horrible idea.

    I swear I feel like I'm paying to play a game the trolls me every moment of my playtime. Especially the forums.
    On #3, why would it be a bad idea to branch off from GLA? In all fairness to GLA, the only reason it doesn't do that great of damage is only because it gets access to only 1 handed swords/daggers. Simply giving them a 2-handed sword and increase in stats when going to Dark Knight, I don't see how it is a horrible idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    On #3, why would it be a bad idea to branch off from GLA? In all fairness to GLA, the only reason it doesn't do that great of damage is only because it gets access to only 1 handed swords/daggers. Simply giving them a 2-handed sword and increase in stats when going to Dark Knight, I don't see how it is a horrible idea.
    At the moment... Classes and jobs are tied inherently to a weapon type. There's a number of reasons for this (such as issues unique animations), so unless they totally revamp the system, it's actually quite impossible for them to make GLA branch into PLD and a great sword wielding DRK. Not to mention all of GLA's support abilities are focused around shield use and defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    At the moment... Classes and jobs are tied inherently to a weapon type. There's a number of reasons for this (such as issues unique animations), so unless they totally revamp the system, it's actually quite impossible for them to make GLA branch into PLD and a great sword wielding DRK. Not to mention all of GLA's support abilities are focused around shield use and defense.
    Ya that would be true. but like we said before if they make Drk a DD Tank job then Gla wouldnt be bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    At the moment... Classes and jobs are tied inherently to a weapon type. There's a number of reasons for this (such as issues unique animations), so unless they totally revamp the system, it's actually quite impossible for them to make GLA branch into PLD and a great sword wielding DRK. Not to mention all of GLA's support abilities are focused around shield use and defense.
    Well 2.0 itself is a revamp, no? For all we know they could make classes compatible with more weapons and open to change animations around. Simply saying, it isn't impossible, and even developers themselves have expressed interest in having Dark Knight an alternative GLA job. I don't think they would of brought that up if it couldn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    On #3, why would it be a bad idea to branch off from GLA? In all fairness to GLA, the only reason it doesn't do that great of damage is only because it gets access to only 1 handed swords/daggers. Simply giving them a 2-handed sword and increase in stats when going to Dark Knight, I don't see how it is a horrible idea.

    Because.. DRK is a 2-handed weapon user. DRK is a spike dmg dealer. DRK is a mixture of a DD (WAR) and a DMG magic dealer (BLM).

    All I'm saying is.. DRK never came from a weak dmg dealing job/class such as a tank. And I'd fear that they'd make DRK hit like a butterfly.
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