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  1. #21
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    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    I am curious: are you in any world or local hunt shells? If so, "it's the hunt" and you shouldn't be.
    No, I'm not. Typically if I'm signaled that there's an S Rank, it's from my FC or because I'm already in the zone when someone shouted it. I try to join since it was announced, but if I miss it then it is what it is. I didn't find it, so I have no claim to it or any right to feel entitled about it.
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  2. #22
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    Calista Fallon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    No, I'm not. Typically if I'm signaled that there's an S Rank, it's from my FC or because I'm already in the zone when someone shouted it. I try to join since it was announced, but if I miss it then it is what it is. I didn't find it, so I have no claim to it or any right to feel entitled about it.
    Umm hmm, ok, glad to hear that...
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  3. #23
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    Eve_The_Witch's Avatar
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    Cecille Cera
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    Twintania
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    +1 for this idea or give old Hunts more HP so fights take a few minutes. So frustrating to first switch World Server, then Region and see in all chat "thanks" and boss is already dead. Or add an in-game calender that shows the next Hunt.
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  4. #24
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    It still takes time to find these marks once they've been spawned, adding a 5 min timer before they can be engaged won't change much especially for marks that are on the other side of the map such as Safat that can take several minutes to locate. Some people use third party programs that track hunt marks so this wouldn't deter them from engaging as soon as they can whilst players who don't have trackers are still looking around trying to find it. There's been several griefers on our datacenter that have been stalking websites that mark down and time S ranks and use hunt mark trackers to reach it first, so the moment they see an ARR S rank target marked as up they immediately bee-line to it and kill it as soon as they find it, often before the people who spawned it get there. As it is stated in the ToS it's a bannable offense to use third party programs and these guys who are consistently reaching it immediately in order to grief other players should be reported for cheating since it'll be fairly obvious that they're using third party programs.

    I'm more in favour of alternative suggestions such as making A and S elite marks a hunt FATE, this way higher level people will be incapable of soloing them as they will have their level reduced to that of the FATE. Another suggestion which few have commented on and I'm not sure if the game engine is capable of it is to remove the level of the mark and increase its difficulty to reflect the person engaging it, again this would make it unsoloable by higher level people as they would be engaging it as if fighting a monster equal to their level whilst level 50's are still engaging with it as if fighting a level 50.

    In the end something really needs to be done to elite hunt marks to make it fair game for everyone to attend because not everyone is considerate enough to wait for others and some do it deliberately out of pure spite and know SE won't do anything about it if they get reported because they're not breaking any game rules.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 07-12-2021 at 01:03 AM.

  5. #25
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    First in first served just how they are
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  6. #26
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    Mello Minkus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    First in first served just how they are
    Here's another problem with that: Say we're at a point where players are leveled high enough that they can singlehandedly kill the lowest-leveled S ranks with a single attack or within a few seconds. This means that even if multiple people are at the hunt mark the moment it spawns, it could become impossible for the damage to be shared, so even being at the rank when it spawns wouldn't guarantee a kill.

    This is a good reason why hunt marks should be guaranteed to not be able to receive a killing blow until a short period of time passes, even if it's less than a minute.
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    I love this idea!
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  8. #28
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    Gyokuro Sencha
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    When 100+ other players, including many coming from cross world, manage to make it before the S rank dies but you can't the problem is on your end and up to you to fix.
    Those 100+ are just lucky to get a slot when the zones are congested. While the other 200 or more people trying to teleport in are not. An immunity period would allow at least a greater portion of the playerbase to get to the hunt.

    Personally, i'd think the best solution would be to significantly reduce the respawn timer. ARR hunts have a spawn timer of 42-78 hours. There's no reason why the expansions hunts, esp. once we're back down to 1 instance, can't have a similar respawn timer. Player base is significantly higher now compared to preious expansions, the "competition" - if you want to call congestion roulette a competition - for hunts therefore is also higher. With a higher spawn timer players will have more chances to play that roulette at least...
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  9. #29
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hustensaft View Post
    Those 100+ are just lucky to get a slot when the zones are congested. While the other 200 or more people trying to teleport in are not. An immunity period would allow at least a greater portion of the playerbase to get to the hunt.

    Personally, i'd think the best solution would be to significantly reduce the respawn timer. ARR hunts have a spawn timer of 42-78 hours. There's no reason why the expansions hunts, esp. once we're back down to 1 instance, can't have a similar respawn timer. Player base is significantly higher now compared to preious expansions, the "competition" - if you want to call congestion roulette a competition - for hunts therefore is also higher. With a higher spawn timer players will have more chances to play that roulette at least...
    Reducing the spawn timers will not improve things. Everyone will continue to descend on hunt marks that get relayed because there is no limit to the rewards they can receive outside of the weekly tomestone cap.

    What SE needs to do is remove the tomestone rewards from the hunt so the hunt goes back to being content for those who like to hunt. Those looking for tomestones have plenty of other content choices to do to get them.
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  10. #30
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    Mateus
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    Sage Lv 96
    The level of pushback going on here is pretty weird considering there's not a lot of convincing reasons to be against more people showing up at your hunt unless you were planning on sniping it.

    In a world where we have to deal with third party tools picking up and sharing coordinates immediately on spawn and the bulk of the organization going on takes place on off-game communication channels, I think some leveling of the playing field seems quite reasonable.
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    Last edited by Sindele; 01-09-2022 at 10:49 AM.

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