S Rank Invulnerability Window Please

[atek63]

Hunts are becoming worse on our Datacenter. There is a group with only one task. They are pulling every s-rank instant. So when this group is active all s-ranks are dying within 1 to 3 minutes. Even SS-ranks are beeing pulled instantly, so all the helpers must hurry to get it. Many players are already at ss-ranks location because nobody want to miss it. And it seems this group is well organized in a cross world link shell. Don't know this kind of trash hunting is what SE wants. It is very frustating for most players in the moment.

[KageTokage]

SE likely has no idea the hunt detecting apps even exist, but even if they did the countermeasures they could take would be limited at best.

Some kind of dynamic HP/defense scaling on S ranks (IE, if the S rank drops below X% of HP before performing a certain number of mechanics, make it toughen up and take longer to kill) is about the most we could hope for IMO.

[Canadane]

People could also just concede that they aren't there for everyone every time. Open world content is just that.
Go get the next one, it's not like they are limited.

[KageTokage]

I'm not going to accept that when the primary reason the system sucks right now is specifically because of third party programs.

I should not be missing hunts that spawned on my own server or worse, ones I spawned myself that are in the same bloody zone because of crossworld traffic generated by bot relays. If a hunt does not get relayed via one of the many apps in use, I have no issues making it to them whatsoever thanks to my extensive linkshell network which can actually stagger relays in an orderly fashion to make sure as many people get to the hunt as possible.

I've been locked out of an instance/zone until a hunt died within less then a minute of it spawning. Information simply spreads too quickly and uncontrollably now, and the result is a chaotic mess that offers scarce benefits over manual relays; least of all to people who choose not to abuse the hunt detectors or can't due to playing on console.

The bottom line is that the prevalence of mods/apps on the hunting scene has created an environment that is simply not fair to everyone. I am not fussed about missing hunts when it can be attributed solely to my own slowness, but when people are getting advance notice of things spawning through less then legitimate methods it's crossing a line.

[Tygari]

What's not fair is spawners spending hours spawning an S rank and it being slain before they can get to the S rank. Something needs to be done to stop these cheaters.

[alfarini]

Would like to suggest adding a 5-10 minute invulnerability window to all S-ranks and 1 minute to all SS rank hunts to allow everyone the opportunity to enjoy the content. Some players are often inconsiderate of other players and pull immediately. There are even linkshells set up with the purpose being to pull everything ASAP just to mess with other gamers. The community has attempted to deal with the toxic environment themselves (i.e. kicking these trolls from parties and removing their access to discord relay channels), but the same players still ruin it for everyone and it’s time for SE to step in. I spend countless hours camping at the Aetheryte with my world visit menu up, and still only make it to about 40% of the hunts on time with my PS4 Pro. Adding a simple invulnerability window would alleviate the toxic environment a select few players go out of their way to create. It will also help players spend their time enjoying content instead of camping the aetheryte.

Hunts are open world content and nobody is entitled to the hunt besides thoes who spawned it. They just have the decency to link it and let others know. You can't expect to camp at a plaza and get a kill because your in a link shell or discord. You really think that adding a timer is OK? The people who spawn it now have to wait for a dumb timer just for lazy folk to show up and insta pull it on timer expiration. It's a courtesy from the community to share hunts. It's not a requirement.

[Tygari]

But spawners aren't getting them. Their being sniped before spawners can arrive.

[Jojoya]

What's not fair is spawners spending hours spawning an S rank and it being slain before they can get to the S rank. Something needs to be done to stop these cheaters.

It's not the huge problem that some make it sound like. And yes, I've spawned and yes it's been dead before I could get there on 3 occasions out of the hundreds of spawns I've done over the years. There have been far more times when I've helped to spawn something and then left the zone without staying for the kill because I had other things I wanted to be doing and had paused those because a spawner was asking for help.

We know SE isn't going to do anything about the hunt mods. Acting like they don't exist is pointless. Instead, the thing to do is make those mods work for everyone. That's what the CH Discord did. Instead of just those with the mod getting notification, everyone in CH gets them. Much better than the control games that Faloop plays, which causes people to miss out because the relay is intentionally delayed instead of sent immediately.

The hunt mod itself only increases response time by a few seconds. Even without the mod, there's nothing to prevent someone who just happens to be in the zone and in the right place when the S rank spawns from immediately relaying it to their linkshells/cwls or within 10 seconds to a Discord.

But spawners aren't getting them. Their being sniped before spawners can arrive.

Then that was a poorly prepared spawner.

And no, nothing is being sniped because no one owns a hunt. No one, including the spawner.

[Kuroka]

The bottom line is that the prevalence of mods/apps on the hunting scene has created an environment that is simply not fair to everyone. I am not fussed about missing hunts when it can be attributed solely to my own slowness, but when people are getting advance notice of things spawning through less then legitimate methods it's crossing a line.

Funny how its 2+ years later and it only got WAY WORSE as by now its gettin hard to even notice hunt trains lol

[Tygari]

Then that was a poorly prepared spawner.

And no, nothing is being sniped because no one owns a hunt. No one, including the spawner.

That's a lie.
Spawners have to be I specific places some times to spawn. And it is random where the s rank spawns.

There's no preparing for randomness.

The spawners have a right to get on the fight. To say otherwise is pure selfishness.