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  1. #11
    Player TurtlesAWD's Avatar
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    Not sure why people view going to callouts and spawning marks as mutually exclusive, nor are the people most willing to tell you to do spawns ever really interested in telling you how.

    Frankly I think the sense of self-entitlement is reason enough to drop the hunt as a style of content, things which give some subset of players reason to start thinking they're better than others are probably best avoided.
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  2. #12
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    Not sure why people view going to callouts and spawning marks as mutually exclusive, nor are the people most willing to tell you to do spawns ever really interested in telling you how.
    Have you tried asking them? Not that most of them would be able to answer, they don't spawn themselves. They're just tired of the complaints from people who miss out.

    Most spawners are happy to share information if you ask when they aren't busy. They're even happier to share if you are helping them do some of the more tedious spawning. It helps pass the time when it's going to take a couple of hours to spawn something and you have limited options for speeding it up.

    Self-entitlement isn't an issue with the content. It's an issue with the person. If that was a valid reason to remove content from a game, there would be no games left. There's always someone who feels entitled.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamietus View Post
    Would like to suggest adding a 5-10 minute invulnerability window to all S-ranks and 1 minute to all SS rank hunts to allow everyone the opportunity to enjoy the content. Some players are often inconsiderate of other players and pull immediately. There are even linkshells set up with the purpose being to pull everything ASAP just to mess with other gamers. The community has attempted to deal with the toxic environment themselves (i.e. kicking these trolls from parties and removing their access to discord relay channels), but the same players still ruin it for everyone and it’s time for SE to step in. I spend countless hours camping at the Aetheryte with my world visit menu up, and still only make it to about 40% of the hunts on time with my PS4 Pro. Adding a simple invulnerability window would alleviate the toxic environment a select few players go out of their way to create. It will also help players spend their time enjoying content instead of camping the aetheryte.
    You're wasting your breath on the people here. They automatically gainsay every idea for whatever incomprehensible reason that they've come up with. They also think it's perfectly fine for you to miss out on a 72 hour spawn because of some reason that doesn't make sense when put through the logic wringer, but makes perfect sense for brats who don't like to share their toys.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    You're wasting your breath on the people here. They automatically gainsay every idea for whatever incomprehensible reason that they've come up with. They also think it's perfectly fine for you to miss out on a 72 hour spawn because of some reason that doesn't make sense when put through the logic wringer, but makes perfect sense for brats who don't like to share their toys.
    When 100+ other players, including many coming from cross world, manage to make it before the S rank dies but you can't the problem is on your end and up to you to fix.

    Personally I would like to see SE change S ranks slightly to encourage more community cooperation. An immunity period isn't the answer. All that will happen is SE would get a stream of complaints about how the immunity period isn't long enough.
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  5. #15
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Personally I would like to see SE change S ranks slightly to encourage more community cooperation. An immunity period isn't the answer.
    That's totally fair.
    What do you think might be a more appropriate answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    That's totally fair.
    What do you think might be a more appropriate answer?
    Give the S ranks a buff that ignore damage taken over X amount per hit, scaled to reflect attacks that would be appropriate for that expansion's level cap.

    As an example (and I'm just throwing numbers out here at random, real number are no doubt different), if the most potent attack at level 70 would hit for 30k damage when the player is using ilvl 400 gear (Augmented Scaeven), then give the Stormblood S ranks a buff that "absorbs" the amount of an attack over 30k. A level 80 DNC could have a Technical Step deal 160k damage but the Stormblood S rank HP would only decrease by 30k.

    For ARR S ranks, maybe that number would be 1500. Any damage over the amount a level 50 player would be capable of doing in 130 gear (Augmented Ironworks) would be negated. Maybe HW would be 10k at 270 (Augmented Shire)so damage over 10k is negated.

    Players don't have to be leveled synced so they can use their normal attack rotations. They'll just deal less damage. They also don't have to be standing there doing nothing while waiting for those who arrive late.

    And SE doesn't have to completely reprogram how the Hunt works. They just need to add the buff to the S ranks.

    One of the other problems with using a Vuln down immunity is that you could be standing there waiting and still miss out because you took your attention away from the S rank for the wrong 5 seconds or because a Wulgaru sleeps you before you get your attack off and it dies before the debuff is removed. ARR S ranks melt incredibly fast right now and HW will melt just as fast next expansion if power creep continues at its current rate. You're not going to miss out if you look away briefly with this type of buff because it's still going to be alive.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 01-20-2021 at 01:35 AM.

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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Here's an idea, free of charge.

    Reduce the spawn time to 24 hours. 72-144 hours is just plain ridiculous.
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    I'd like to see a global call to arms that be selected and checked off for the different ranked bosses that you are interested in. Depending on a hunt discord is not only broken but a pain for the people that always call out in channels. IMO, no game should ever have to depend on a 3rd party platform to seek out or play regular game content.
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    "Fanboy is gaming jargon used to describe an individual that has gone beyond the point of being a PC or console game fan and, during online chats or discussions, shifts to defend the program at all costs, unable to take any criticism or acknowledge any shortcomings of the game or gaming console."

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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    I'd like to see a global call to arms that be selected and checked off for the different ranked bosses that you are interested in. Depending on a hunt discord is not only broken but a pain for the people that always call out in channels. IMO, no game should ever have to depend on a 3rd party platform to seek out or play regular game content.
    Except it's the hunt. You're supposed to hunt the marks, not just wait for a global notification that one has appeared. Those that actually hunt them should be the ones rewarded. If you're able to join in, then that's great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Except it's the hunt. You're supposed to hunt the marks, not just wait for a global notification that one has appeared. Those that actually hunt them should be the ones rewarded. If you're able to join in, then that's great.
    I am curious: are you in any world or local hunt shells? If so, "it's the hunt" and you shouldn't be.
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