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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    So Coglin, basically you can't explain your argument then? Yeah, didn't think so. You said the exact things I knew you would, as stated in my own post. You refuted absolutely nothing and ignored any actual arguments. You resorted to personal insults as well, good job. You've proven that you actually have absolutely no argument with any footing in reality. Prove me wrong and I'll admit you're right. Though I doubt that'll happen as you can't. Prove me wrong, I would absolutely love to see you try. Use actual facts and real arguments instead of just attacking me personally. If you can't do this, which I believe is the case, your thoughts have absolutely no bearing on this thread.
    So my opinion and perspective are invalid because I didn't prove them to a couple of idiots who demanded I do. Everyone loves an opinion nazi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teia View Post
    You're arguing with someone who basically responded to "as a gatherer, I say this" with "you don't get to say that, your perspective doesn't apply to everyone, but as a gatherer, here's a perspective I'm applying to everyone." It's pretty much a textbook case of hypocrisy.
    Please quote specificly where I made either statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Please quote specificly where I made either statement.
    Herp:

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    As a gatherer, I agree with Welvum.
    And derp:

    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Again you pressume to tell us as gatherers, how we will and wil not feel about this. From a gatheres perspective, I am telling you your wrong. Your perspective does not apply to everyone.
    Herp a derp derp, three herps to a derp, herping their herps and derps.

    Because Arcell's perspective doesn't apply to every gatherer, but apparently yours does (why else would he be wrong and you wouldn't?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teia View Post
    Because Arcell's perspective doesn't apply to every gatherer, but apparently yours does (why else would he be wrong and you wouldn't?).
    And how do you get to that false asumption? I clearly stated he was wrong to claim his opinion applies to all getherers, Thats a fact. Where did I claim my opinion applier to all getherers?

    So again, please quote where I claimed to speak for all crafters my lying friend.

    Is called reading comprehension, you should give it a shot sometime.
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    Newbie here making his input. I can honestly say I would like to see unlimited arrows for no other reason than I don't really see many other games using consumable ones. I'll use Guild Wars as an example. Rangers don't need to buy arrows there, they just need a bow. If you decide you want to play another class and make a new character, you don't see any of them needing to purchase consumables ever and they are just as fun as playing a Ranger. If you move from Guild Wars to FFXIV (or XI for that matter), you will probably be turned off by the fact that your favorite archetype is basically a money sink all the time. It simply isn't fair if you look at it from the respective points of playing other DoW classes. On the other side of the spectrum World of Warcraft does have consumable ammos for ranged weapons, however classes that use them also have melee weapons to deal with threats if they run out at an inopportune moment. FFXIV Archers simply do not have that, they get to punch their enemies which does considerably less damage than an arrow.

    So for the tl;dr version: I like the idea of unlimited arrows, but if that won't happen give archers a melee weapon to help deal with the inevitable moment when those arrows run out.
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