Possible Ideas to Address Hrothgar/Viera Hat Disparity?

[HyperiusUltima]

I've been seeing a lot of threads that gripe about Viera and Hrothgar not being able to wear head crowns, and I think maybe there's a way around it. I understand that the devs design them mainly without considering Hrothgar and Viera for Event Items and such(Heavensturn coming around).

I've been trying to think of a way to get around this, and I've just recently come up with an idea: Why not work things off of Hrothgar? The variations for Viera would mean having to make ear holes for the bunny ears and the like, but this is looking at gear additions towards 6.0 since there's development time involved for everything to get done. Having varying head sizes would probably do something for modeling, but then you might have people complain about "This helmet's too big for Hyur/Rhoe/Au'ra/Elezen/Mi'qote/Lalafell and looks goofy!"

Ah, if it were only easy to snap the helmet to the head and make it look good for people. If anything, imagine CULLING the top of the Hrothgar's head hair(provided it's not labeled as anything else in the model editor with whatever software is being used) when a Helmet is equipped. Just the hair on the upper portion of the skeleton. That could be another solution to Hrothgar, but this is just me throwing ideas.

I wouldn't mind hearing other ideas from people on the forums, provided they can adhere to what XIV's Developers have said about model skeletons and the like in 5.0.

[van_arn]

more hats obviously

[Vickii]

Delete both races.

Honestly this is the third thread today about hats for races that were announced to not have hats.

Your best option is to roll a proper race and they shouldn’t pander to people making new ones in the future because the people that beg them for stuff are never happy and will keep demanding more and more.

[Lumivyory]

Your best option is to roll a proper race and they shouldn’t pander to people making new ones in the future because the people that beg them for stuff are never happy and will keep demanding more and more.

You do realize that people wouldn't be "demanding more and more" if Viera and Hrothgar would be included in the "proper races"?
That is exactly the reason why you see so many threads about it. Why should we be happy about races that look like they were done in 5 minutes before the release of the expansion? Nobody asked for that and a lot of people would be fine with waiting until 6.0 if those races were done better by that time.
And now it's been over a year since ShB release and we got literally no updates for these races. People have all the rights to be unhappy, considering we were told that at least we'd get more hairstyles.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

There is a chance it's more complex then people realize.
But, my next idea if I'm gonna scavenge for anything to hold onto, is that maybe they will be able to make the neccessary changes and adjustments in the next expansion.

They outright said there will be more hair for both races, but didn't say when. So the fact it hasn't happened yet tells me they are holding out till next expansion. Same could be happening with headgear.

Might be planning on making TONS of adjustments and improvements overall in 6.0

[Theodric]

I agree that Viera and Hrothgar should be able to use more headgear/hairstyles.

With that said, they're pretty recent additions to the game and there's older playable races with similar issues. Elves are usually among the most popular choices in various games that have them as a playable option but they're in the minority in FFXIV due to awkward proportions. Highlander men have no option to use authentic eyebrows...and so on.

At this point, I think a complete overhaul and expansion of the character customisation across the board is needed.

[Duskane]

I guess they are waiting for next expansion to bulk add most the issues wrong with viera and Hrothgar right now

[Yencat]

If anything, imagine CULLING the top of the Hrothgar's head hair(provided it's not labeled as anything else in the model editor with whatever software is being used) when a Helmet is equipped. Just the hair on the upper portion of the skeleton. That could be another solution to Hrothgar, but this is just me throwing ideas..

This is pretty much how it works for every other race.



Viera is a bit trickier with the long ears but could still work for most items with the pointy witch/wizard model hats, but Hrothgar could easily wear a majority of the hats but they just haven't put in the work to split the hairstyles in 2 like you see above and instead they're one piece and the hair clips through the hat for Viera and for Hrothgar the hairstyle completely disappears.

Delete both races.

Honestly this is the third thread today about hats for races that were announced to not have hats.

Your best option is to roll a proper race and they shouldn’t pander to people making new ones in the future because the people that beg them for stuff are never happy and will keep demanding more and more.

You're free to keep scrolling past these posts if they bother you. Or start another about marketboard undercutting, because we definitely needed another one of those.

[Duskane]

This is pretty much how it works for every other race.



Viera is a bit trickier with the long ears but could still work for most items with the pointy witch/wizard model hats, but Hrothgar could easily wear a majority of the hats but they just haven't put in the work to split the hairstyles in 2 like you see above and instead they're one piece and the hair clips through the hat for Viera and for Hrothgar the hairstyle completely disappears.

Hats like RDM would be Tricky but generic wizard hat they could probably just get away with hiding the ears
hair style clipping shouldnt be the issue when other races hair style Squishes down to fit the hat

[Yencat]

Hats like RDM would be Tricky but generic wizard hat they could probably just get away with hiding the ears
hair style clipping shouldnt be the issue when other races hair style Squishes down to fit the hat

Yeah, the RDM hat doesn't make a ton of sense for Viera without ear-holes or letting just them clip through. But then again, an Au Ra wouldn't actually be able to fit a barbute-style helmet over their horns either so we're not exactly operating in the realm of realism anyway.

They'd have to make a partially culled hair model for Viera and Hrothgar before anything else though and those just don't exist.