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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    If a person is stupid enough to give away their login details like that, I'd say let virtual Darwinism take its course.
    You now there are these viruses called key loggers that will copy and send information over the internet based on the buttons you press.

    Darwinism indeed, I though you would know about such things with such mighty intellect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    You now there are these viruses called key loggers that will copy and send information over the internet based on the buttons you press.

    Darwinism indeed, I though you would know about such things with such mighty intellect.
    Thats what anti-malware is for, and a little bit of common sense, I have never had a keylogger on my laptop, or any virus infact although I use lets say high risk software (not FFXIV related) because I have common sense about where I download from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Thats what anti-malware is for, and a little bit of common sense, I have never had a keylogger on my laptop, or any virus infact although I use lets say high risk software (not FFXIV related) because I have common sense about where I download from.
    Well I have had one steal both my FFXI account and WoW account, although it was several years ago now, its more for peace of mind.

    I can't believe you are actually arguing against security, lol well each to his own.

    and Anti-malware and virus scanners don't always pick them up, I had to reformat my PC when my WoW account was stolen because I couldn't get the damn thing off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Well I have had one steal both my FFXI account and WoW account, although it was several years ago now, its more for peace of mind.

    I can't believe you are actually arguing against security, lol well each to his own.
    I arent arguing against security, I am arguing for a smartphone authenticator app, read the thread you would see the guy is saying because phones are online everyone in the world will hack them for a constantly changing OTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    I arent arguing against security, I am arguing for a smartphone authenticator app, read the thread you would see the guy is saying because phones are online everyone in the world will hack them for a constantly changing OTP.
    Hmm never heard of Blizzard having problems with their authenticator app.

    Link please if you know of one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    You now there are these viruses called key loggers that will copy and send information over the internet based on the buttons you press.

    Darwinism indeed, I though you would know about such things with such mighty intellect.
    That's nice. You still won't get far with one single-use pass without the serial number and the algorithm used to generate the code. Chances are if you get such a virus, you've been doing something wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Hmm never heard of Blizzard having problems with their authenticator app.

    Link please if you know of one.
    Read the rest of the thread and you'll see that he's talking about the guy who claims that mobile authenticators are useless because the phone is connected to a network near full-time.

    Actually, here you go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    The phone that is able to download an app is by definition online and therefore can be hacked/compromised/etc. Your keychain can't.

    Never underestimate the security of an air gap.
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    Last edited by Impulse; 04-19-2012 at 05:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    That's nice. You still won't get far with one single-use pass without the serial number and the algorithm used to generate the code. Chances are if you get such a virus, you've been doing something wrong.
    Hmm ?? You were talking about login and password nothing about authenticator (do I have to quote you or can you not remember what you typed?), its pretty obvious they can't steal an account if they don't have the one time password lol...


    Read the rest of the thread and you'll see that he's talking about the guy who claims that mobile authenticators are useless because the phone is connected to a network near full-time.
    Yea and as I said show me a case of Blizzard running into issues because of this, the password only lasts for a matter of 10 second, so even if the one time password was transmitting over the internet the person on the other end would have to log in with 10-15 seconds making it almost impossible.

    Also when the hacker logged into the account it would kick the other person out, then that person would relog kicking him out, its not quite that simple.

    Plus there is fine line between being security concious and completely paranoid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Hmm ?? You were talking about login and password nothing about authenticator (do I have to quote you or can you not remember what you typed?), its pretty obvious they can't steal an account if they don't have the one time password lol...




    Yea and as I said show me a case of Blizzard running into issues because of this, the password only lasts for a matter of 10 second, so even if the one time password was transmitting over the internet the person on the other end would have to log in with 10-15 seconds making it almost impossible.

    Also when the hacker logged into the account it would kick the other person out, then that person would relog kicking him out, its not quite that simple.

    Plus there is fine line between being security concious and completely paranoid.
    Had to facepalm this ITS EXACTLY WHAT I AM FUCKING SAYING, THE APP IS A LOW SECURITY RISK I HAVE SAID IT ALL ALONG BECAUSE IT CHANGES SO OFTEN READ THE FUCKING THREAD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Hmm ?? You were talking about login and password nothing about authenticator (do I have to quote you or can you not remember what you typed?), its pretty obvious they can't steal an account if they don't have the one time password lol...
    No, you simply took a small part of my post out of context. Read the whole damn thing and read the post I was responding to, you'll see that the other person was talking about a user putting in their one time use, time sensitive code along with the rest of their info, getting hacked in the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Yea and as I said show me a case of Blizzard running into issues because of this, the password only lasts for a matter of 10 second, so even if the one time password was transmitting over the internet the person on the other end would have to log in with 10-15 seconds making it almost impossible.
    You do realize that neither Delsus or I have said anything about Blizz's app being insecure, right? Gogdamn you're dense.
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