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  1. #31
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    So as a lot of people know compared to what drives the unsundered Ascians vs what drives Zenos it is like comparing Lord of the Rings trilogy to Dr. Suess.

    We are missing some SERIOUS backstory to Zenos so all we see is....hunt yesss the hunt more hunt yeahhhh. Compared to Emet or Elidibus it is a waste of a character.

    How to fix
    So if the plan is to keep this guy around we need a quest chain somewhere involving the echo showing how Zenos went from an innocent kid to sadistic psychopath. Not sure how you want to do it but if we go from the fine wine that is Shadowbringers back to one dimensional huntboy Zenos for an expansion we are going to have problems.
    Zenos can't be fixed. It does not matter what his backstory is - he will remain a one-dimensional psychopath.

    That people gained some sympathy for Elidibus and Emet-Selch was not so much because we learned their backstory but because we finally understood their motive for all their actions, and that this motive (restore the ancient world) was a quite sympathetic and understandable motive.

    We already know Zeno's motive for his actions, and it is neither sympapthetic nor easily understandable.
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  2. #32
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    Crossu's Avatar
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    Cross Schnee
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    Ragnarok
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Zenos doesnt need to be fix because, as many pointed before, he's the antagonist to the WoL and he works. Is he a good one? No. Is he bad because he's one-dimensional? He doesn't have to.

    The best part of Zenos was when he was in the Elezen body doing something. Now all he does is being bored in throne while Fanandiel (weird name, wont bother) tries way too much to carry the scene.

    Having Zenos motivation being having that transendent moment with the WoL is fine he should work more towards it or be more "active" like Emet and Elidibus were.

    Honestly Im more intrigued in Fananandiel and what to fight him way more than zenos.
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  3. #33
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    EgilTheStressedMage's Avatar
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    Egil Vairemont
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    Jenova
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I don't want Zenos to be sympathizing or understandable. The Ancients are more than enough of it.
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  4. #34
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    Kesey's Avatar
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    Kesey Stryker
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    I don't want Zenos to be sympathizing or understandable. The Ancients are more than enough of it.
    Can we sympathize with the Ancients? We don't know what originally brought about the "end days" in the first place other than Emet claiming it was their own hubris. Furthermore, the being we are reincarnated from didn't participate in summoning Zodiark or Hydaelyn, implying that neither solution is the "right" choice. And they genocided half of their people to fuel summoning Zodiark.
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