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    Consensus about lifting job glamour restrictions

    I know this topic is regularly discussed but I want to suggest something slightly different.

    Usual idea is to lift all restrictions, but I think that the fact that some people don't want to see tanks in white robes or healers in full plate armor is understandable.
    So I suggest giving some jobs access to gear of some other jobs, depending on what type of gear they wear.

    This table shows current gear distribution:


    Looking at this table, I suggest that following jobs can fully access these sets:
    - Tanks - can access maiming and striking gear,
    - Drg - can access fending and striking gear,
    - Mnk, Sam - can access maiming, scouting, aiming gear,
    - Nin - can access striking and aiming gear,
    - Phys ranged - can access scouting and striking gear,
    - Healers - can access casting, aiming, scouting, striking gear,
    - Casters - can access healing, aiming, scouting, striking gear

    It can be discussed and adjusted (for example casters would move from the least to the most variety), but general idea is to give as much variety as possible, without breaking "immersion", so people still won't see healers in full plate armor or tanks in white robes.

    And now for the implementation - people often say that game code is limiting. Which might be true, if current distribution is coded deep in the game, it can't be just removed.
    But it can be bypassed. Add lvl 1 glamour version of all items with lifted restrictions, once you obtain specific item, you can go to special vendor to exchange normal item to glamour version.

    Of course job specific gear (Drachen set for example) will still be locked for specific job. Weapons still will be locked, no one is asking for axes for ninja.

    P.S

    Before you ask why according to this list DoW can wear robes - robes below lvl 50 have no class restrictions. So actually if you really want you can be tank in white robes.
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    Last edited by Cetek14; 12-21-2020 at 02:51 AM.

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    I still wonder why the trash mobs in syrcus are casters and wearing the high allagan fending coat, and healers/casters still can't in 2020.

    This restriction of casters being prevented from wearing full plate needs to go. Tanks have been wearing bikinis since ARR after all...
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    There are tier sets where tank/healer or tank/caster shares so i would very much prefer that the restrictions were removed completely. Not to mention the NPC's breaking restrictions.

    Removing the restrictions would end up being more immersive than what we have.
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    This would be an improvement over the current situation.
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    I think it would be better if they just expanded their designs. Maybe make a handful of craftable versions that can be worn by all classes like they did for the Sky Pirate Armor, but with other sets like the Allag armor and whatnot.

    But, I think instead of literally unlocking all gear, just go outside the box and design some caster gear with armor, light, medium and heavy, perhaps with a magic feel to it. Likewise make more cloth/robe like gear for the War classes.
    Like yknow, get more creative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I think it would be better if they just expanded their designs. Maybe make a handful of craftable versions that can be worn by all classes like they did for the Sky Pirate Armor, but with other sets like the Allag armor and whatnot.

    But, I think instead of literally unlocking all gear, just go outside the box and design some caster gear with armor, light, medium and heavy, perhaps with a magic feel to it. Likewise make more cloth/robe like gear for the War classes.
    Like yknow, get more creative.
    That would be great, but Yoshi P will sooner commit seppuku than allow caster wearing something else than robe with spiky hat. RDM suffers from it the most, 90% of casting gear design does not suit it at all.
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    If you would like a consensus then you can put me down for "is fine with restrictions"
    Limitation breeds creativity after all. Working around a restriction is much more rewarding than having everything available at all times.
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    Striking and Aiming gear definitely need to share with Scouting. Way too many times have I seen both of the former and thinking to myself that it looks more like the latter.
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    I think that certain sets should be unlocked for glamour but not available for general use. That's where replicas come in. The list of sets I'd like to see replicas of is rather lengthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    If you would like a consensus then you can put me down for "is fine with restrictions"
    Limitation breeds creativity after all. Working around a restriction is much more rewarding than having everything available at all times.
    Limitation just restrict players towards the same options.

    Will always be against restrictions as long as the devs themselves can't uphold them.
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