Ya'll.. Snow is pricey

[tdb]

There's really so little impact a single individual can have on these numbers to reel them in so I buy them regardless. Sure, if there was a movement for change where the community would come together; I'd participate.

Ah, the good old "I'm too insignificant to matter so I won't do anything" argument. How many others do you think feel the same way? And if all of them instead thought "I'll do my part, no matter how insignificant" maybe something would come of it even without a coordinated effort?

My other cheap entertainment are books I can hold-- physical goods-- paints and art supplies .. these are digital goods and it is only a modern day anomaly that some of society measure digital worth on even grounds as physical property.

But does the entertainment value come from having the physical book, or from reading the words contained within? Would you not be equally entertained for reading the same words from a digital book on a Kindle? If you rent a movie, watch it, and then return it, does not having the movie anymore somehow invalidate the entertainment you got from watching it? It's the same with digital subscription-based games. You should put the value on being entertained by the game, not on owning it or any items within the game.

That being said, there can be some value in physically owning things. The user interface of a physical book can feel more comfortable than a digital reading device, so maybe a digital copy isn't worth as much. I prefer to buy movies on physical Blu-Ray discs, even though I then rip them and watch the movies from my computer. A subscription-based service such as Netflix would almost certainly be cheaper, but I have some misgivings about the quality and the continued availability of my favorite movies (titles being pulled has happened in the past). With a game as massive as FFXIV I don't expect to ever replay it from the start, so availability being tied to my continued monthly payments is fine. I've been a subscriber for 3.5 years and played the game for over 3000 hours. Overall it's cost me 0.20 money per hour, which is pretty good value even for a video game.

Anyways.. we're not changing any minds here; I can say that there is such a thing as a Buyer's Remorse solely due to the cost of what you get -- you can tell me my feelings are wrong. It's something we'll have to disagree on.

We're not telling you your feelings are wrong. We're trying to tell you to act on those feelings. If you continue to act as you have so far, you'll continue to have bad feelings.

[Lostar]

We're not telling you your feelings are wrong. We're trying to tell you to act on those feelings. If you continue to act as you have so far, you'll continue to have bad feelings.

This is going to sound absolutely immature but it's no less true-- No one acts on principle alone 100% of the time.. we give into our whims. My whim here is -- well, if I act on my principles; then no snow. I wanted the snow. I got it. I had buyer's remorse about it but that feeling will pass and I will still have my snow to decorate the house I'm proud to have gotten.

So I acted from the perception of; I don't like this now but I'll forget about that negative feeling eventually but that snow is forever. :P Is it wrong? I don't think there is any right or wrong here... just wish that the prices would fall in line with something that takes away that initial negativity. That is all. I .... don't understand the pushback.... I understand people wanting to tell me how to spend my money so that it doesn't conflict so with these principles I've expressed. Maybe this little clarification will make my simple request more clear,

[tdb]

This is going to sound absolutely immature but it's no less true-- No one acts on principle alone 100% of the time.. we give into our whims. My whim here is -- well, if I act on my principles; then no snow. I wanted the snow. I got it. I had buyer's remorse about it but that feeling will pass and I will still have my snow to decorate the house I'm proud to have gotten.

So I acted from the perception of; I don't like this now but I'll forget about that negative feeling eventually but that snow is forever. :P Is it wrong? I don't think there is any right or wrong here... just wish that the prices would fall in line with something that takes away that initial negativity. That is all. I .... don't understand the pushback.... I understand people wanting to tell me how to spend my money so that it doesn't conflict so with these principles I've expressed. Maybe this little clarification will make my simple request more clear,

The pushback is because you sound like you want SE to correct for your mistake. Acting on a whim every now and then is fine. This time the outcome turned out to be less than perfect. Now you need to either own up to your mistake and resolve on making better decisions in the future, or justify to yourself why it was still a net positive outcome and make peace with the fact that you're not infallible. It sounds like you're well on your way to the latter.

I've made my fair share of mistakes too, and some of them have cost me a decent amount of money. But each time I've picked myself up, cleaned up my mess and carried on with my life, wiser for the experience.

[Frizze]

Considering there are only enough houses for about 40% of the player base, im going to assume the number looking to buy this on the mogstation is far less then 5%. But thats not the reason i decided to post. I cant tell you that you dont feel buyers remorse. What i can do is ask what you think the price would have to be to eliminate that feeling for you. Looking at the prices on the mogstation, most items in the same class as the snow(housing or single item wearable from past event) are either $3 or $5. And nothing i could find was less then $2(these were exclusively emotes from past events). So whats the price that you would feel good about?

[Jojoya]

There will always be players complaining it's a cash grab regardless what a company does. Players want to spend the least amount of money possible, preferably zero. Even F2P games get complaints when players have to buy the cosmetic/vanity items they want when "it could have been a reward that would get us to log in to play".

Personally I don't think they need to boost the visibility of sales more than they already do. We get the Lodestone topics both when a sale starts and a few days before it ends. The launcher splash is an ongoing things for the duration of the sale. Sale items get featured on the default page of the new Store website plus have a separate category for those who want to see just the sale items, not the recommended or most popular.

The last thing I want is F2P style cash shop advertising when you get a pop-up as soon as your character loads telling you to go buy things off the cash shop, or reminding you about the cash shop when you reach certain points in content. Seeing other players using the cash shop items is more than enough of a reminder in game that it exists.

If the thought is "well if they can get more players to buy, then I can pay less", it's not going to happen. People willing to buy from a cash shop are generally already doing it. Lowering prices might attract a few more buyers on niche items but the volume of new sales almost never covers the difference for the revenue that would have been earned at the original price.

If they sell 10,000 units of an item at $3.50, then they need to sell 17,500 if they lower the price to $2 or 35,000 at $1 to get the same revenue. It's not going to work with items that you buy once then never need to buy again. $3.50 is already so cheap that someone who really wants it is going to go ahead and buy it. It does work with consumable items that the player wants to keep reusing and so has to keep rebuying (why we see things like the dyes selling 10 for $10 - people will keep repurchasing them at that price).

[not_ya_wify]

I think they should come in a $10 bundle with 4 snow piles. However, I would much rather have a new event with new and improved snow piles because these ones kinda suck.

1. They are too small to cover a large area with the extremely restrictive item restrictions we have for yards, especially the 20 items for small houses. I once did a Christmas house on commission for a client and tried to cover the yard with these and gravel dyed white. There was literally nothing else in the yard and there was green grass peeking out everywhere.

2. They have a really irregular shape that makes it difficult using them in bulk, especially with gravel. The edges are tall but the middle is really low. For one, if you put several in a row, it looks extremely patterned and unnatural. But also, if you wants some "flattened" areas made from gravel, this is really hard to do because except for the edges, the gravel lies above the snow, so you end up seeing random sharp corners of gravel in the middle of the snow.

Can we just get new snow drifts that are 2-4 times the size and taller in the middle than the edges, so we don't get any weird patterns when combining them?