Crafting and Marketboard botting

[Moonlite]

I see. You don't see the effort so you assume there is no effort. Do you expect them to say HEY GUYS WE ARE GOING TO START GOING AFTER BOTS THIS WEEK! They do things behind the scenes if my exclamation wasn't on the nose.

Did you not see the first part of the post you quoted? About how many non rmt players they ban. Which probably should have said "guessed" non rmt. I want you to look at this report aug 13 and the this recent report.



・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
　・Accounts terminated: 4,754
　・Accounts temporarily suspended: 11
・Botting activity (Using any number of third party tools that allow for automation)
　・Accounts terminated: 5
　・Accounts temporarily suspended: 10
[*Botting activity by RMT vendors has been included under "Participation in RMT/prohibited activities."]
・RMT advertising
　・Accounts terminated: 573


now the most recent one


・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
　・Accounts terminated: 3,512

・RMT advertising
　・Accounts terminated: 687


Now it is possible they decided the other info wasn't important. Or it is possible the other info was so low they didn't want to post it. They always ban rmt bots. I am not sure if they are the only company that takes the passive approach and allow the damage to be done. But players that seem to be regular everyday cheaters don't seem to get punished. In other games I have played if enough people reported someone a GM would take them out of the game. What happen after that, I don't know. But I never saw those players name again.

[Krojack]

Man, I wish our bots were that entertaining.

It was pretty entertaining to watch at first. The bots would teleport really high up in the sky then fall and die on impact. That's how they killed themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/ZKdIDii.jpg

[Vickii]

Bots existed, but they're rampant now. Several things contribute to this issue.

I think the biggest change is bots went from just being something RMTs used to being something lazy gamers used.

You still see the weirdly named obvious bots about but watch an older node get picked by botanists on the dot every time exactly the same way and you’d think it was a normal player if it wasn’t so perfect and doing it every single time 24-7.

Shame we can’t have a console only server.

[Moonlite]

I think the biggest change is bots went from just being something RMTs used to being something lazy gamers used.

You still see the weirdly named obvious bots about but watch an older node get picked by botanists on the dot every time exactly the same way and you’d think it was a normal player if it wasn’t so perfect and doing it every single time 24-7.

Shame we can’t have a console only server.

And those are the players that should be severely punished. Any sensible person knows RMT is a never ending battle. Bot player bots should be inexcusable and should be regularly wiped out. People have no fear. Keep their mouths shut in game and cheat 24-7. This is where GM interaction is important. And so strange that it doesn't happen at all in 14 but does in 11.



SMN could bot mote(am i remembering the right item) farming in 11, with just the way in game mechanics were designed with no 3rd party tools. GM asks a question and moves your character a bit. No response equals multiple suspensions and then a ban. When i made fun of the person who this happened to his response. It is in game it is not cheating. He doesn't play 11 anymore, haha.

[Jojoya]

Shame we can’t have a console only server.

I think it might be part of why other game companies still keep console and PC players on separated servers. Console players don't end up affected by PC player hacks.

It would also be sad, though. A lot of the good friends I've made here are console only while I'm PC only and we would have never met if the two were separate.

[ItMe]

I think it might be part of why other game companies still keep console and PC players on separated servers. Console players don't end up affected by PC player hacks.

It would also be sad, though. A lot of the good friends I've made here are console only while I'm PC only and we would have never met if the two were separate.

I'm in the same boat.
Most of my FC would never have started if there wasn't crossplay, especially because there are a lot of couples / siblings there where one of them uses the computer and the other the PlayStation.
The PlayStation version of the game would be better protected from PC hacks, yeah, but the population would def take a hit. If the game didn't have crossplay and a household has more than one 14 player it's much easier and cheaper to just get a second laptop than to get an additional PlayStation and have to worry about getting a second TV, getting a couch and a table for it trying to set up another space for console gaming (assuming you have the room in your house / apartment / whatever) . . . and cuz of space / noise reasons you probably won't set it up right next to where the other person plays so you wouldn't even be able to physically be together while you're online together despite living together and it's just UGH so much easier to just play on 2 computers, especially if you wanna get together with you FC for lan parties.

[Vickii]

I'm in the same boat.
Most of my FC would never have started if there wasn't crossplay, especially because there are a lot of couples / siblings there where one of them uses the computer and the other the PlayStation.
The PlayStation version of the game would be better protected from PC hacks, yeah, but the population would def take a hit. If the game didn't have crossplay and a household has more than one 14 player it's much easier and cheaper to just get a second laptop than to get an additional PlayStation and have to worry about getting a second TV, getting a couch and a table for it trying to set up another space for console gaming (assuming you have the room in your house / apartment / whatever) . . . and cuz of space / noise reasons you probably won't set it up right next to where the other person plays so you wouldn't even be able to physically be together while you're online together despite living together and it's just UGH so much easier to just play on 2 computers, especially if you wanna get together with you FC for lan parties.

I don’t think the population of the PS4 server would be noticeably different. You just take PS4 players from different servers and put them in their own. May end up with an even bigger server.

Unless you mean less people will play because they can’t cross play with their friends.

But honestly as a console player I think it would be a much better experience for us. We’d be on a level playing field in terms of pvp/raiding and we wouldn’t have to worry about gold farmers and bots nearly as much.

[ItMe]

I don’t think the population of the PS4 server would be noticeably different. You just take PS4 players from different servers and put them in their own. May end up with an even bigger server.

(Emphasis mine)
Hahaha somehow this had not occurred to me.
I retract my post.