Please adjust Cross World trading and put higher restrictions on it

[ItMe]

There are quite a few people who have bought and boosted many a retainer on worlds they DO NOT reside on, simply to make a quick gil and tank that market. I have personally spoken to somebody who has said this outright. "lol This isn't my home world. This is my alt that I use to mule goods. I don't care how bad the market gets here because it doesn't effect my server at all. Sorry". I cannot name them, but this is a direct quote from them.

... wouldn't expanding cross world trading help your point?
If everything is more connected people can't tank one server to enrich themselves on their own.

[Lecru]

... wouldn't expanding cross world trading help your point?
If everything is more connected people can't tank one server to enrich themselves on their own.

Not at all. The Cross World and Firma fast leveling is flooding the market with people trying to make a quick gil and driving prices into the ground. The time it takes to gather mats to make Food (if not taking the market way out and buying it) or even set pieces doesn't justify how absurdly low things are now selling for because of this. Before CWT and Firm, you could craft a few pieces that would sell for 700k a piece. That's not absurd by any means. 2 pieces would be around, say, 1.3 mil on the board. Now, an ENTIRE crafted set on the board costs 1.4mil on my server. That's 11 pieces of HQ gear that you have to sit and make the sub mats for while popping a food as well and taking the time to craft each one. But because those two elements are there, the market is just flooded with people who are out for a quick gil, as stated before, and drive things into the dirt because they are unaware of how to work the board. There's no tutorial for market boarding. I know somebody who crafts Tinctures and would sell them for around 7k~~ish. These require tome mats per craft. 2 per in fact. Of which i'm sure you're aware of, but for those that don't. Which requires either time spent grinding or gil spent for the mats. Plus, again, gil spent for the crafting food or time spent gathering all the materials. Etc. Those very same tinctures have gone down to 3k because of people spamming this. That's not even worth the mats to make your food to craft it. At least getting rid of CWT woudl alleviate SOME of this market spam by people not even on your server making an alt, spending 30 minutes getting it to 15 only to choke your world up with their product.

[Reinha]

To be fair, becoming a crafter and making a set of gear is so stupidly easy that high prices aren't justified like they used to be. Just because some players decide an item should be worth more doesn't mean it is.

Every week I turn in 12 custom deliveries and get around 10 Control materia basically for free. After the materia conversion change I keep getting more and more materia I don't know what to do with other than sell. Pentamelding the newest crafting gear has never been easier and this allows everyone and their grandma's dog to have high amounts of CP and other stats and access to the best crafting macros.

Additionally, I spent about 2 hours fishing and crafting to make 90 crafting food. That food recipe was available before the most recent patch so only quiet down time was spent. The materials to craft Exarchic gear cost around 20k for accessories and 40k for weapons/chest so you can easily just buy those, sell the gear for 100k and still make a profit. You can craft the whole set within one food buff if you prep NQ materials in advance. What other activity in game would guarantee you over 1M Gil profit per 30 minutes of clicking a button and watching Netflix? It's no wonder more and more people are flooding the market and driving the prices down.

The only reason crafters were able to charge more for this easy business is because getting crafters or gatherers to max level and melding gear used to take a lot of time and money. Providing the same thing now is no longer rare or special and the supply has increased. Quite a lot of people have also become self sufficient or they are able to rely on friends, which further reduces demand.

This doesn't mean the market works incorrectly or that it's being maliciously ruined by other players. Botting is an issue that should be addressed but cross world trading is not the reason crafting became less profitable.

[KatCnaa]

To be fair, becoming a crafter and making a set of gear is so stupidly easy that high prices aren't justified like they used to be. Just because some players decide an item should be worth more doesn't mean it is.

....The only reason crafters were able to charge more for this easy business is because getting crafters or gatherers to max level and melding gear used to take a lot of time and money. Providing the same thing now is no longer rare or special and the supply has increased. Quite a lot of people have also become self sufficient or they are able to rely on friends, which further reduces demand.

This is why I would love to see the Expert recipes brought over to regular crafting for some things.

I would love to see it work so that some older recipes that have 1-off mats have those mats eliminated from the game (which would help inventories a bit, but isn't ultimately necessary) -- but have some recipes made into Expert ones. I'm thinking non-leveling gear like glams and some special housing items and perhaps a few minions. Non-essential things that are currently over-supplied.

And I would love to see something that's essentially the equivalent of Expert crafting for gatherers -- which could be used to get minions, like the Kidragora. Maybe with a levelsync feature, so that you'd have Expert gathering/crafting at level, even if you're maxed out and pentamelded.

I think this would bring some interest to crafting/gathering beyond Ishgardian Restoration and the MB without driving up prices for items regular players need or make decorating a house unwieldy. --and possibly allow master crafters to show their chops a bit on the MB.