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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    That only works if there is a house available for every player with the gil to buy. If they can't buy, the gil continues to accumulate in the system.
    I mentioned in an earlier post that average 790 houses per world sold this year according to data posted by Yshtola Cat. Thats 31.6 billion in placard prices, up from 2.37 billion.

    I would say 29.2 billion gil is a significant removal from the system. If each world has 20,000 players that is an average of 1.46 million gil per player, serverwide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If SE doesn't fix the supply problem, increasing the price accomplishes nothing.


    I can see them increasing the prices if they don't solve the supply problem, though I don't see them being increased to the amounts that Catstab is suggesting.

    You're right that they're not going to limit housing to the rich but then what is rich these days?
    I do continue to agree that giving us instanced housing or 50 more wards is better than restricting access to artificially add to supply.

    But as you say, if they can't/don't fix the supply, they could do something similar to a price increase - realistically, what are the options?
    -Change the level requirement of a personal house to 80 (or multiple 80s)
    -Change the FC rank requirement to Captain
    -Increase the placard price (to me, this option has the most benefits)
    -Something absurd like 'amaro club' or 'mentors' or 'savage raiders'

    What is rich these days? Certainly not 40 million. I think enough players have it that houses would still sell, but I think few enough people have it that small houses in the goblet would occasionally sit open up to a couple hours.

    I still say pricing the houses at or above their true worth is the best way to increase supply and stop resale, and still think it'd allow us to do away with the timer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    I still say pricing the houses at or above their true worth is the best way to increase supply and stop resale, and still think it'd allow us to do away with the timer.
    So how is "true worth" determined, especially considering different players/FCs buy them for different reasons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So how is "true worth" determined, especially considering different players/FCs buy them for different reasons?
    People are buying properties at rates in line with what early ARR costs were, that’s probably what he means be true worth.
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    The method you suggest keeps the gil sellers alive though, so it is definately not an option, the forced wait game is best, because you wont know when the plot is available.... also just report bots at plots, because if they keep clicking at the exact same interval, then that is recorded and a GM can see that interval, assuming having the tools to, and just suspend the account temporarely.
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    Also give FC's the same terms of condition as a regular player, so you can not just transfer FC's to a person you just got into it, but has to have had at least 2months in that FC to be able to inherit the ultimate boss rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    The method you suggest keeps the gil sellers alive though, so it is definately not an option, the forced wait game is best, because you wont know when the plot is available.... also just report bots at plots, because if they keep clicking at the exact same interval, then that is recorded and a GM can see that interval, assuming having the tools to, and just suspend the account temporarely.
    The method I suggest kills one market, and cripples the other. Please explain how one dead and one crippled market are not an improvement as compared to two thriving markets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    The method I suggest kills one market, and cripples the other. Please explain how one dead and one crippled market are not an improvement as compared to two thriving markets.
    I don't think it should be legal to sell an FC, it is not moral wrong in so many ways in a game that is supposed to be a massive multiplayer online roleplaying game.... and botting can be dealt with.. if spamming same thing for quite a while in an equal interval, just mute the player for spamming that action automaticly for 2 hours.
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