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    Quote Originally Posted by ssunny2008 View Post
    - We all know that bootshine does the most damage trough it´s 100% crit from behind. This means that you just stay behind the boss permanently.
    - If you ignore the positionals on the 3 sideskills, you´ll actually lose only like 5% potency in the core rotation.
    - And on top of that, way more damage comes with the off GCD´s now since TK and probably the doubled amount of chakra proccs is a thing.
    Every six gcds you do that for, you lose the equivalent of a leaden fist.

    Monks relative damage from GCDs has increased, not decreased. They cast OGCDs more often now, but they all do significantly less damage. Very few of them got any potency buff to balance out losing the 30% from Greased lightning. Forbidden Chakra even got hit by an additional 8%or so.

    Tornado Kick really just covers the loss of Auto attack potency.

    Edit: Also, just checking the patch note changes

    Every positional increased from 20 to 30, so that just adds to the confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Every six gcds you do that for, you lose the equivalent of a leaden fist.

    Monks relative damage from GCDs has increased, not decreased. They cast OGCDs more often now, but they all do significantly less damage. Very few of them got any potency buff to balance out losing the 30% from Greased lightning. Forbidden Chakra even got hit by an additional 8%or so.

    Tornado Kick really just covers the loss of Auto attack potency.

    Edit: Also, just checking the patch note changes

    Every positional increased from 20 to 30, so that just adds to the confusion.
    And which equivalent you´re talking about?

    I´ve read the patch notes thx. That chakra has way more proccs is more worth than the 30% (38%) loss. TK is a completely new off gcd with 400 potency which wasn´t a thing before. All what you´re going to lose is 90 potency every 12s, even less if you still want to force "true monk". Just go to a dummy and test it out. The damage loss is not relevant if you stuck behind the boss even without TN or RoE. Savage content can be done without side positionals.
    I did it by myself and i did pretty much the same damage without positionals as before with positionals. Doing positionals now was like a ~5% increase only. And together with RoE on cd at every side-rotation (perfect 6s), it´s pretty much braindead and you´re going to lose even less damage.

    This means, positionals are pretty much irrelevant anymore unless you want to farm some logs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssunny2008 View Post
    And which equivalent you´re talking about?
    I was quite specific.

    If you choose to ignore that, the data we can look at, and the math involved, that is your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I was quite specific.

    If you choose to ignore that, the data we can look at, and the math involved, that is your choice.
    I don´t ignore anything, but losing 90 potency, maybe 120 in every 2nd rotation, is not that big of a deal in kind of DPS. It´s definately in the window to beat savage, which makes monk even more forgivable than it ever was. As i said, just test it on a dummy, it´s not a big deal.
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