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  1. #21
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    For the OP, Isn’t the end result essentially the same? If you aren’t going to memorize the mechanics, does it really matter what order they come in?

    All this would really effect is the middle ground player; the ones who memorize it know the tells regardless of order. It’s that middle ground that kinda sorta has it that goes with the fight as a whole rather than chunked mechanics.

    I couldn’t honestly tell you the exact order of any boss mechanics outside of Titan and that’s only because I did Titan Ex when it was new in 2.0.


    Also to add what others have said..the engine just isn’t built for smoothness/jumping/dodging.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    That mechanic is the worst of them but far from the last of them. That was what finally broke and destroyed my desire to raid in this game. It does not belong in a casual / story mode raid, its too complex, too fast, too unforgiving. I have a bad short term memory so that mechanic is just never going to click for me. After trying the encounter four separate times with an average death count of twelve per run, I just quit and walked away, destroyed, dejected and crushed. It was the most soul crushing experience I had in this game so far and I... I just don't want to feel that way again. The second half of the new trial also left me feeling battered and bruised so I don't have that as a refuge. So I have really nothing left to do... its sad and just breaks my heart thinking about it. I never wanted to be here but here I am and it just brings me to tears at times thinking about it.


    A couple things that help me deal with it: Friends on VC calling out which one it was, marking up one player who CAN do it and just following them. Honestly it only has to be done maybe once a week, if that and you can skip the equipment entirely for tomestone stuff OR you can skip that particular one entirely after passing it once. I also had a problem with the Warrior of light trial where you had to memorize what he "charged" for his strike, but I used the same solutions.
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  3. #23
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Wow raid bosses are not as random as they seem. Just use DBM on a boss you will see the boss does use abilites in a set order. What makes wow fights more choatic is that wow does not use AOE as heavily as FF14. Bosses have ablities that target random players rather then targeting the whole raid and push player responibility more. Both games use scripted fights its just how abilites work that seperates the two of them. WoW also has its in game dungeon guide that tells you what every boss in a raid or dungeon does.
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    Adeacia Lightheart
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    Rather than RNG, I would like it if you did extra dps and you'd skip boss mechanics as a result, instead of them being skipped, all the mechanics that were supposed to happen, all happen simultaneously.

    You'll have to deal with every mech no matter what you do. It's just are they spaced out? Or do they all happen at the exact same time?
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  5. #25
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    Riamara Skye
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    I have played this game since beta and have never experienced this server tick problem people complain about. You either press the button in time or you don't. You move out of an AoE or you don't. If it makes you feel better though you keep blaming it on server tick.
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  6. #26
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    I have played this game since beta and have never experienced this server tick problem people complain about. You either press the button in time or you don't. You move out of an AoE or you don't. If it makes you feel better though you keep blaming it on server tick.
    I would count yourself lucky that you've never experienced walking out of an AOE only to take the damage and vuln stack anyway, or pushing a button to do a move, seeing your character do the animation and the monster acts as if it never happened. Grats on having good ping and all.. but your experience isn't everyones.
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  7. #27
    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I would count yourself lucky that you've never experienced walking out of an AOE only to take the damage and vuln stack anyway, or pushing a button to do a move, seeing your character do the animation and the monster acts as if it never happened. Grats on having good ping and all.. but your experience isn't everyones.
    Yes imagine that. It goes both ways. Your experience is also not as widespread as you think. You may want to check your provider for answers.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Yes imagine that. It goes both ways. Your experience is also not as widespread as you think. You may want to check your provider for answers.
    I know what my problem is thanks, I'm over 3k miles from the nearest server, so what I'm saying is while you're lucky you've never had problems, this doesn't mean they don't exist.
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  9. #29
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Trials (no I won’t call them raids) in Eden are supposed to carry rest of the expansion and are meant to be redone over and over until 6.0 and are supposed to be more flowing over time. You can’t memorize it now give it 3 months and you’ll know the fights better than your parents
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  10. #30
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    I have played this game since beta and have never experienced this server tick problem people complain about. You either press the button in time or you don't. You move out of an AoE or you don't. If it makes you feel better though you keep blaming it on server tick.
    For instance, i play with my wife being in the same room, most the time her playing heal so keeping check on my LP... the times when even she on her side sees me move in time or even PAST HER into the save Zone and still get it are countless... or when i use an aoe shield the second a boss starts casting his attack, yet only for it taking effect after the hit...

    Its too dependend on serverside and theres few reason for that as we see ppl still can hack or bot...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It probably depends on your ISP, your location and what you are running the game on. I have had no issues whatsoever. I'm not saying the servers are great because they really are not. But the problem, specifically yours, might not be the game's doing.
    Its mostly their servers or the route to them... as its surely neither my pc nor our ps4 as its not happening all the time or on certain hours. Like, i get the servers are stressed if 1000 do the ssame thing or i see when my connection is worse then usual.
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