Thread: Patch 5.4 Delayed Openers and Raid Buff Alignment

You've been at this since 5.0, and you've never made sense nor have you actually put together an opener that works better than anything available on The Balance and made by people with experience. That or you're trolling. Either way, get new material.

Hey! I had a look into your white mage opener and I have a couple of questions.

- Why is there a swiftcast before assize?
- Why did you try to place a double weave in the middle of it all? (Thin Air + Presence of Mind)

I'd like to hear your thought process on this ^^

Originally Posted by CodeArkada

Hey! I had a look into your white mage opener and I have a couple of questions.

- Why is there a swiftcast before assize?
- Why did you try to place a double weave in the middle of it all? (Thin Air + Presence of Mind)

I'd like to hear your thought process on this ^^

Assize is unaffected by Swift, so it simply applies to the next Glare:
Dia -> (Swift + Assize Weave) -> Instant Glare -> (Thin Air + PoM weave).

That said, wasting Swift just to fit Thin Air in the opener for a few free Glares makes no sense whatsoever. You can use that opener to fit in a needed oGCD though instead, such as a Temperance or Asylum to catch an early raidwide. Generally though you just Glare at 2.5 sec prepull, open Dia, weave PoM/Assize and Glare spam.

Hm, alright. Since I'm most familiar with Dancer, lets break this down.

You want to delay Technical Step, so that you MIGHT be able to use devilment before flourish because of proccing something and get that one extra attack with devilment up during tech step.

In return, you risk proccing both and then needing to delay Flourish by another GCD, as your advice to overwrite Reverse Cascade is outright wrong, you lose more potency overwriting a proc, even Reverse Cascade, than you do just delaying flourish and letting it drift back a little bit. You delay your Tech Step such that you've basically drifted several GCD's, and by doing so, you've likely drifted it out of whack with the rest of the parties raid buffs to boot.

You're far better off just using the standard opener and then later in the fight, once you can plan for procs or have a sabre dance ready, letting it drift back by -one- GCD.

There is pretty much no point, ever, that one would want to use your dancer opener, it's RNG dependant, worse than the standard no RNG opener even IF it works out, and has a splash of bad advice for flourish as a cherry on top. And yes, if -everyone else- uses your delayed openers, fine sure it'll line up, but the RNG still makes it worse to use and others have noted... significant problems with the others to a degree that makes me seriously doubt it would actually be an overall RDPS increase.



Paladin looks... mostly fine at a glance, though I'm not the most familiar with it. The potion is a GCD late but whatever.



White Mage you're better off with Dia into Assize into Presence of mind. Save swiftcast for movement or raising someone who did something dumb. Thin Air is better saved for more strategic use rather than blindly placed in the opener 100% of the time, there's more MP expensive points to use it oftentimes. I'd also put Divine Benison in there, you can cast it the first time pre-pull (along with a regen on the main tank because why not, pre pull it's basically free) and then cast it after dia every 30 seconds for basically free mitigation on the main tank. And Lucid Dreaming can still be thrown in as need be as well.

So uh....

How long are you going to keep doing this? Your guides and rotations are almost never received well.

Originally Posted by SiriusSaltstice

So uh....

How long are you going to keep doing this? Your guides and rotations are almost never received well.

From what I've seen, that "almost" is generous.