Request: I don't want to solo the main scenario

[Zaaku]

Sounds like a rather extensive case of you not giving a damn about getting rank 10. I got my Sandy Flag, Windy Flag, and Bastok Flag all hanging up in my Mog House when PUP was my only 75.

No I didn't have someone drag me through it all.
No my LS wasn't burning them.

I simply said to myself, "I want those flags." Then I got it done. I scanned /sea I looked up anyone in my current rank and I began inviting them for runs. Hardly took any real effort in the end since most of the fights were pretty easy. A few of them were more difficult and actually required the PT to be awake but I had a blast going through those missions and felt awesome afterwards.

Just another example of someone who expects things to fall into his lap instead of putting in the effort. I never really had much problems in FFXI because I didn't wait for my goals to just happen. It is a vital skill every player should be taught. Having everything casual as hell and not forcing group from an early level is going to rob players of this critical knowledge. Hell most people I invite to party aren't even flagged or in Uldahn. I just go through the list of players in range and ask them in /tell if they would like some EXP.

People need to stop equating FFXI and hard work to the boogey man. Those who give a damn about finishing something will find a way in a timely manner. You were only beating yourself. the game had nothing to do with it.

[LillithaFenimore]

Sounds like a rather extensive case of you not giving a damn about getting rank 10. I got my Sandy Flag, Windy Flag, and Bastok Flag all hanging up in my Mog House when PUP was my only 75.

No I didn't have someone drag me through it all.
No my LS wasn't burning them.

I simply said to myself, "I want those flags." Then I got it done. I scanned /sea I looked up anyone in my current rank and I began inviting them for runs. Hardly took any real effort in the end since most of the fights were pretty easy. A few of them were more difficult and actually required the PT to be awake but I had a blast going through those missions and felt awesome afterwards.

Just another example of someone who expects things to fall into his lap instead of putting in the effort. I never really had much problems in FFXI because I didn't wait for my goals to just happen. It is a vital skill every player should be taught. Having everything casual as hell and not forcing group from an early level is going to rob players of this critical knowledge. Hell most people I invite to party aren't even flagged or in Uldahn. I just go through the list of players in range and ask them in /tell if they would like some EXP.

People need to stop equating FFXI and hard work to the boogey man. Those who give a damn about finishing something will find a way in a timely manner. You were only beating yourself. the game had nothing to do with it.

Wow, you must be really lucky then. Because TBH, it took me 3 days of begging LS members and random people in XI to help me get all my summons. Then it took me an additional 3 days of pulling random people together to get Fenrir. Then I remember working on my Summoner AF for almost 2 weeks because everyone was either busy in my ls, didn't show, of no one answered shouts hardly. And it wasn't that I needed people to hold my hand to get my summoner AF. I did the research on what was needed, we just needed the man power to help with some of the drops, same with the carbie mitts, needed the man power to help, not hand holding. Ugly temple tonberries are no joke to a squishy mage type.

It should not be that difficult to enjoy a video game. That was XI at the time. That is fine. However, most people, including myself have aged 10 years...lives change...many of us don't have that same sort of time to invest into seeing a main scenario of a video game. Some may, which is fine, however, many people are only interested in seeing main scenario, not doing raids, working to get best gear, etc. Simply in it for the story...

Again, to just toss those players aside, to cater to one type of play style is crazy. There really needs to be a middle ground.

What is so hard to understand about that? And is having a middle ground really that bad for some?

I don't believe Duelle is a lazy player. It's just craziness to have to wait so long to progress through what many consider a hobby and not a second life. Again video game = down time from RL, a way to unwind for many. I don't know many gamers who find it fun to spend 2 weeks trying to get help with AF. Those gamers are a very "rare" breed...

[Noir]

Wow, you must be really lucky then. Because TBH, it took me 3 days of begging LS members and random people in XI to help me get all my summons. Then it took me an additional 3 days of pulling random people together to get Fenrir. Then I remember working on my Summoner AF for almost 2 weeks because everyone was either busy in my ls, didn't show, of no one answered shouts hardly. And it wasn't that I needed people to hold my hand to get my summoner AF. I did the research on what was needed, we just needed the man power to help with some of the drops, same with the carbie mitts, needed the man power to help, not hand holding. Ugly temple tonberries are no joke to a squishy mage type.

It should not be that difficult to enjoy a video game. That was XI at the time. That is fine. However, most people, including myself have aged 10 years...lives change...many of us don't have that same sort of time to invest into seeing a main scenario of a video game. Some may, which is fine, however, many people are only interested in seeing main scenario, not doing raids, working to get best gear, etc. Simply in it for the story...K

Again, to just toss those players aside, to cater to one type of play style is crazy. There really needs to be a middle ground.

What is so hard to understand about that? And is having a middle ground really that bad for some?

I don't believe Duelle is a lazy player. It's just craziness to have to wait so long to progress through what many consider a hobby and not a second life. Again video game = down time from RL, a way to unwind for many. I don't know many gamers who find it fun to spend 2 weeks trying to get help with AF. Those gamers are a very "rare" breed...

Agreed. Some kids think that they won't ever grow up. Well, listen to the voice of experience.
Oh and btw, those Barry checks (Barack Obama) won't keep coming forever... Thank god. So, by saying that, you will actually have to get a job, and won't have time to play 24/7, whinning about the game being easy or whatever. So, it's a win win situation for everyone. Right?

[Zaaku]

Agreed. Some kids think that they won't ever grow up. Well, listen to the voice of experience.
Oh and btw, those Barry checks (Barack Obama) won't keep coming forever... Thank god. So, by saying that, you will actually have to get a job, and won't have time to play 24/7, whinning about the game being easy or whatever. So, it's a win win situation for everyone. Right?

Disgusting.

Absolutely disgusting. You can't provide a counter argument or support for your side of the discussion so you belittle those you don't agree with and call them children and wellfare dependents?

Just a disgrace.

[Noir]

Disgusting.

Absolutely disgusting. You can't provide a counter argument or support for your side of the discussion so you belittle those you don't agree with and call them children and wellfare dependents?

Just a disgrace.

If that doesn't fit your character, no need to be offended. Plus, I agree. Disgusting. Whoever does that. And believe me. Many are them.

[Zaaku]

If that doesn't fit your character, no need to be offended. Plus, I agree. Disgusting. Whoever does that. And believe me. Many are them.

Yes there are and I am counting YOU among them. You just said that anyone who wants a harder game is a jobless child who just doesn't understand the complexities of life. That we should bow to your "Voice of experience".

I myself do not fit that insult because I am gainfully employed, own my own house, and am a responsible adult. You still insult me by inferring that I am otherwise because I don't want to be able to beat the game by putting in only 2 hours a day.

[LillithaFenimore]

Yes there are and I am counting YOU among them. You just said that anyone who wants a harder game is a jobless child who just doesn't understand the complexities of life. That we should bow to your "Voice of experience".

I myself do not fit that insult because I am gainfully employed, own my own house, and am a responsible adult. You still insult me by inferring that I am otherwise because I don't want to be able to beat the game by putting in only 2 hours a day.

Oh good, then you really shouldn't be offended by his/her post.

[Noir]

Yes there are and I am counting YOU among them. You just said that anyone who wants a harder game is a jobless child who just doesn't understand the complexities of life. That we should bow to your "Voice of experience".

I myself do not fit that insult because I am gainfully employed, own my own house, and am a responsible adult. You still insult me by inferring that I am otherwise because I don't want to be able to beat the game by putting in only 2 hours a day.

Humm, 2 hours a day? Yeah right... Everyone knows thats what takes to play party only content...
I'm not against a harder game, but if by hard you mean party only, yes. Sometimes, takes you 1 hour to form a part of 8. A good one, maybe 2 hours. I don't care if you agree with me or not. But I'm sure most don't agree with you. We gotta havea game that Offers the possibility of all type of gamers to enjoy. I like a hybrid game. Not solo only or party only. That's what final fantasy was promoted for. Otherwise Myself and others wouldn't be here. I'm sure you can find party only content on games from ncsoft rather than SE. They offer your party only content and harder stuff. Of course , since you are a well succeeded person, you can ebay your way up the ladder there. That's one of the things I love about this game. Final fantasy the way it is now, don't need to Go that way we all know and hate. When a game is party only and ridiculously hard, gets flooded with farmers and you all know the end of the story. If that's what you like, you won't find here.

[Majidah]

Sounds like a rather extensive case of you not giving a damn about getting rank 10. I got my Sandy Flag, Windy Flag, and Bastok Flag all hanging up in my Mog House when PUP was my only 75.

No I didn't have someone drag me through it all.
No my LS wasn't burning them.

I simply said to myself, "I want those flags." Then I got it done. I scanned /sea I looked up anyone in my current rank and I began inviting them for runs. Hardly took any real effort in the end since most of the fights were pretty easy. A few of them were more difficult and actually required the PT to be awake but I had a blast going through those missions and felt awesome afterwards.

Just another example of someone who expects things to fall into his lap instead of putting in the effort. I never really had much problems in FFXI because I didn't wait for my goals to just happen. It is a vital skill every player should be taught. Having everything casual as hell and not forcing group from an early level is going to rob players of this critical knowledge. Hell most people I invite to party aren't even flagged or in Uldahn. I just go through the list of players in range and ask them in /tell if they would like some EXP.

People need to stop equating FFXI and hard work to the boogey man. Those who give a damn about finishing something will find a way in a timely manner. You were only beating yourself. the game had nothing to do with it.

Are you my doppelganger? This is exactly my experience on XI. I was a PUP 75 with all 3 nation flags.

I'd make my own parties, as I usually do on XI. And things get done in a timely manner.

I didn't even have a LS on XI. I was a truly solo player (by this I mean I grouped with strangers when things needed to be done, but I didn't rely on a LS to do me any favors).

People who can't get a group going are just lazy tbh. I'd get groups going for anything even on XIV before the server merge. I never was unable to do something because of lack of people here or there.

But anyway, I agree 100% with this guy.

And no, it has nothing to do with luck. You get things done if you actually try. On XI you'd just copy paste the invite and send it to everyone who wasn't in a party an within level range. Also macro'd a party shout macro and run up and down through all of jeuno.

[LillithaFenimore]

Are you my doppelganger? This is exactly my experience on XI. I was a PUP 75 with all 3 nation flags.

I'd make my own parties, as I usually do on XI. And things get done in a timely manner.

I didn't even have a LS on XI. I was a truly solo player (by this I mean I grouped with strangers when things needed to be done, but I didn't rely on a LS to do me any favors).

People who can't get a group going are just lazy tbh. I'd get groups going for anything even on XIV before the server merge. I never was unable to do something because of lack of people here or there.

But anyway, I agree 100% with this guy.

And no, it has nothing to do with luck. You get things done if you actually try. On XI you'd just copy paste the invite and send it to everyone who wasn't in a party an within level range. Also macro'd a party shout macro and run up and down through all of jeuno.

I made my own exp parties too. I'll tell you how long it took. On a good day 10 minutes, on a bad day, an hour. That was just the construction of it. That did not include traveling to camps...only to find they were taken...then have to add more time by checking online for other viable camps if the one you built your party around was taken. Oh and God help you if you had to move to another camp that really required another job...then that usually meant having to tell someone "I'm sorry, but your job is no longer viable for my party since we have to go to X camp." That sucked having to say something like that to someone, especially since they may have been lfp as long as an hour.

And again, I would make my own parties too in order to get things done, but again, luck factors in. And time you were own, and the day, because I know many LS's would run end game stuff, or go farming for this that and the other for their end game. So you can't tell me that it took only a few minutes to gather man power to go to Ugly Temple to deal with friggen tonberries from hell to get pop item to pop that stoopid Pawberry then go pop Mr. Man and deal with him >.>; to get the drop. And that pop item according to wiki could take "■Temple of Uggalepih (K-8) - ??? can take 15 minutes to 2 hours to spawn. " Yeah...guess who got the long spawn time.... >.>;

Anywho again my point is...people who played XI weren't lazy >.>; and it did involve LUCK a lot of times >.>;