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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaaku View Post
    Actually according to the recent poll thread...
    Poll threads are completely irrelvant. The Threads are locked to those with active subscriptions.

    Do you honestly believe the casual base would pay for the game in an incomplete condition?

    There's a reason why it is called the 'vocal minority'. It is because those who are insecure about their position being in the minoity, often are the ones who speak the loudest to place themselves in the beleif that they are the majoirty.

    Your poll, which I read and refused to vote on, is also laced with the same sort of pointed, biast speech that makes any sort of conversation towards choice or compromise so seemingly impossible, and the ongoing conversations so basely polarized.

    Hardcore players are a minority of gamers, period. If we are to presume your poll is an adequate representation of our base, then we also much acknowledge right now that what we have in the game is a niche audience.

    If you are proposing that FFXIV only appeal to a niche audience then I stand by my initial statement in counter: Why can it not appeal to both camps? The solutions are here, staring us in our face.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Sorry, but the Thread is about the main story quest. Primal fights are not part of these.
    It's about things like: Form a party with 2 other players, go to the black shroud, kill 2 wolves, finish (Of Men They Sing)
    I don't want something like this, I want something more difficult
    Good point on keeping this conversation on topic, but I think you don't know what you're asking.

    I don't beleive you're asking more more difficulty as you are asking for something more dynamic. Because if it's more difficult, the process would be the same, just with a greater number:
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Form a party with 4other players, go to the black shroud, kill 2 wolves, finish .
    That does not sound any more appealing to me than your unmodified quote.

    Instead, why not gather 0-5 other individuals, go to the location, fend off an entire PACK of wolves, with an Alpha-wolf that co-ordinates them that you can disorientate the entire pack by killing the wolf or scattering them with a farmed item that triggers a flee instinct in them. Have a selectable difficulty (1-5 stars) and choose how you approach the fight?

    The wolf fight, more or less, is a Leve instance, works with the same basic components. There's no reason why the fight can not have both more dynamic feel, AND a choice of difficulty.

    And I believe the player base sells itself short by fighting with each other instead of demanding more for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Poll threads are completely irrelvant. The Threads are locked to those with active subscriptions.

    Do you honestly believe the casual base would pay for the game in an incomplete condition?

    There's a reason why it is called the 'vocal minority'. It is because those who are insecure about their position being in the minoity, often are the ones who speak the loudest to place themselves in the beleif that they are the majoirty.

    Your poll, which I read and refused to vote on, is also laced with the same sort of pointed, biast speech that makes any sort of conversation towards choice or compromise so seemingly impossible, and the ongoing conversations so basely polarized.

    Hardcore players are a minority of gamers, period. If we are to presume your poll is an adequate representation of our base, then we also much acknowledge right now that what we have in the game is a niche audience.

    If you are proposing that FFXIV only appeal to a niche audience then I stand by my initial statement in counter: Why can it not appeal to both camps? The solutions are here, staring us in our face.



    Good point on keeping this conversation on topic, but I think you don't know what you're asking.

    I don't beleive you're asking more more difficulty as you are asking for something more dynamic. Because if it's more difficult, the process would be the same, just with a greater number:


    That does not sound any more appealing to me than your unmodified quote.

    Instead, why not gather 0-5 other individuals, go to the location, fend off an entire PACK of wolves, with an Alpha-wolf that co-ordinates them that you can disorientate the entire pack by killing the wolf or scattering them with a farmed item that triggers a flee instinct in them. Have a selectable difficulty (1-5 stars) and choose how you approach the fight?

    The wolf fight, more or less, is a Leve instance, works with the same basic components. There's no reason why the fight can not have both more dynamic feel, AND a choice of difficulty.

    And I believe the player base sells itself short by fighting with each other instead of demanding more for all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    You don't mean YOUR thread right? Because I'm telling you right now that is no way indicative of the majority of players or of those hoping this game is great in 2.0

    Denial! Denial everywhere!

    Face it. Just because casualization is the latest trend in MMO's doesn't mean the current player base, which is keeping this halfway dead comatose patient alive, want a better game. Saying there are more people out in 'potential land' that think the way you do is moot. I can say the same thing.

    And yes solo friendly games and difficult challenging gameplay are mutually exclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    I didn't say that he didn't powerlevel. I did say that his lack of knowledge wouldn't be because of powerlevelling. Whether he did or did not powerlevel is immaterial.
    This is what PLers actually believe. May Altana have mercy on our souls...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    I don't beleive you're asking more more difficulty as you are asking for something more dynamic. Because if it's more difficult, the process would be the same, just with a greater number:
    Form a party with 4other players, go to the black shroud, kill 2 wolves, finish .
    That does not sound any more appealing to me than your unmodified quote.

    Instead, why not gather 0-5 other individuals, go to the location, fend off an entire PACK of wolves, with an Alpha-wolf that co-ordinates them that you can disorientate the entire pack by killing the wolf or scattering them with a farmed item that triggers a flee instinct in them. Have a selectable difficulty (1-5 stars) and choose how you approach the fight?

    The wolf fight, more or less, is a Leve instance, works with the same basic components. There's no reason why the fight can not have both more dynamic feel, AND a choice of difficulty.

    And I believe the player base sells itself short by fighting with each other instead of demanding more for all.
    Believe it or not, this is what I mean. What I mean with more difficulty is not to go with more poeple to the fight (this is not difficult, because you can kill the two wolves already solo), but put there more enemys instead of only 2 wolves. Something like 6 wolves and 10 Garlean scouts. The Garleans are hunting a spy, why are there only 2 wolves?
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-20-2012 at 08:23 PM.