Request: I don't want to solo the main scenario

[Zaaku]

Dragon, you've been on my ignore list for a reason, don't try to pretend that your arguments are anything less but heavily abrasive. And often are the root cause for many unnecessary, heated debates. It takes two to tango, but one has to lead the steps.

Remember, your viewpoints, while a valid opinion, is a minority. And such demands should be made under the understanding that your position, if not handled correctly, could ruin the experience of far more people than just those in your own camp.

Ignoring that is what turns your own arguments against yourself in calling people 'entitled'.

Instead of being confrontational, this conversation should be about the details that could be addressed to help both camps. Less polarization and attacking, more "How can we make this work for everyone?"

Actually according to the recent poll thread YOU are in the minority. There are more people on these forums playing the game right now that want HARDER content and increasing the leveling time.

[Dragon]

Actually according to the recent poll thread YOU are in the minority. There are more people on these forums playing the game right now that want HARDER content and increasing the leveling time.

Though I am pessimistically optimistic about it, it doesn't matter what the wants are in specific relation to the majority or minority (numbers are meant to be programmed and used then tossed out).

It's like saying you're willing to jump off a cliff cause the majority would. (Anyone can succeed by appealing to the "majority" and its lowest-common denominator, but it takes real skill to succeed with principle.)

[LillithaFenimore]

Actually according to the recent poll thread YOU are in the minority. There are more people on these forums playing the game right now that want HARDER content and increasing the leveling time.

Actually, you would be surprised the amount of people who do play who do NOT frequent these forums, point blank. I know my old LS on Trabia, many didn't really look on the forums, and the friend I am playing with now on Hyperion doesn't post on here. And I think a few members from my current LS on Durandal doesn't post on here either. The only time I see them post is on the FB ls site, never on here. So I woudln't be shocked if a lot of players are not on here.

[Zaaku]

Actually, you would be surprised the amount of people who do play who do NOT frequent these forums, point blank. I know my old LS on Trabia, many didn't really look on the forums, and the friend I am playing with now on Hyperion doesn't post on here. And I think a few members from my current LS on Durandal doesn't post on here either. The only time I see them post is on the FB ls site, never on here. So I woudln't be shocked if a lot of players are not on here.

sounds like a powerful case of denial.

I stated in the pol thread and once again in this post.

Of the players on the forums, there is a sharp 20% higher approval rating for more difficult (When I say difficult I stated 3months+levels EXP penalty all that jazz) direction for FFXIV.

There could be thousands of players who never vist the forums but guess what, that doesn't mean you can discount the data. If the trend appears in a smaller section of the community pool it is still a very good estimate of the greater whole opinion. You honestly don't think stat collectors call all the millions of People in New York when they compile a poll? No, you get a reasonable sample, which I think 6 thousand views when the total population of the game sits around 10k is pretty dang decent.

It is time to face the facts. We want a harder game. All of you that want solo content, casual leveling, and unperilous world are in fact the minority. Most then half of us want to actually have a bit of a challenge when we log on and not just have everything fall into our lap.

[Cendres]

Actually according to the recent poll thread YOU are in the minority. There are more people on these forums playing the game right now that want HARDER content and increasing the leveling time.

You don't mean YOUR thread right? Because I'm telling you right now that is no way indicative of the majority of players or of those hoping this game is great in 2.0

[Elexia]

You don't mean YOUR thread right? Because I'm telling you right now that is no way indicative of the majority of players or of those hoping this game is great in 2.0

Actually, it was commented that people do indeed want tougher content. People always seem to get indecisive with forum results though now that you mention it. A lot of people said no to "required level" on gear and "poll results says most want favor", then you have people who said "these are results of the playerbase".

Now here's another poll, one is against and says "don't listen to it, these don't reflect the playerbase." Even Yoshida sees and acknowledges the need for tougher content. Why on earth would they even ask us about if we feel the leveling speed is too fast if it wasn't a problem or there wasn't a large enough group of players asking about it to have them turn their heads?

[Dragon]

I'm telling you go back to the game you prefer and stop trying to shape another one into something it is not. I'm not trying to change anything at all, I'm content to let the developers do what they can to save themselves and bring the game to what it was intended to be according to Square Enix and failed to meet.

lol.

You sure as hell sound like you got your mouth in two different places.

We're both here commenting on how we want the game to be; the difference is, I know the inspiration for this game and I don't bother pretending it's any other way.

Hell, I'm even one of the more moderate posters around here, and you should know that (looking by your post count). There are certain things in FFXI that I don't want, and there are things from FFXI that I do want (and I'm perhaps one of the only core players that really wanted Abyssea to succeed).

[Cendres]

You sure as hell sound like you got your mouth in two different places.

We're both here commenting on how we want the game to be; the difference is, I know the inspiration for this game and I don't bother pretending it's any other way.

Hell, I'm even one of the more moderate posters around here, and you should know that (looking by your post count). There are certain things in FFXI that I don't want, and there are things from FFXI that I do want (and I'm perhaps one of the only core players that really wanted Abyssea to succeed).

You know the inspiration for this game? O.o I must have been trolled something fierce then thinking it would be an experience we'd all be able to participate in.

[Duelle]

Hell, I'm even one of the more moderate posters around here, and you should know that (looking by your post count). There are certain things in FFXI that I don't want, and there are things from FFXI that I do want (and I'm perhaps one of the only core players that really wanted Abyssea to succeed).

I don't know what you mean by core players, but I also wanted Abyssea to succeed. I like the way the content was laid out, but also saw flaws in the design (mainly the proc system and the jobisms it encouraged). Seriously, if SE asked me how I would make a console FF based on the events of Abyssea, I'd have to tell them the heroes of the story would be a warrior, a ninja, a singing black mage, a white mage, a thief that's there for comic relief and a blue mage with gas problems.

[Dragon]

You know the inspiration for this game? O.o I must have been trolled something fierce then thinking it would be an experience we'd all be able to participate in.

Ok, I tried. But forget it. Just walk, very quickly, back into the hole you came out of.