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    Anyone figured out the new aethersand mechanic yet?

    Specifically, what's the collectability threshold for getting aethersand and does any excess collectability improve results? So far the lowest collectability I've received aethersand from is 425, but there doesn't seem to be any appreciable increase in chance even with 900+ collectability. The amount of aethersand received is also always 1 (when there's any). I've never seen that "bonus!" text which is visible in the patch notes. I wouldn't think my stats have anything to do with it, but maybe the chances and amounts are better for lower level items? I've only collected levinstrike aethersand since the patch and for that this seems to be a massive nerf for total quantity obtained.
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    I got 6 aethersands from one reduction out of of five. The rest were one.

    I will gather more later.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    I'm getting 1-3 Levinstrike at 1000 collectability, though most of the time it is just one. I had one bonus on a 1000 where I got 6. I'm going to guess that the chance for bonus is in the 5-10% range.

    Below 1000, sometimes I'd get the Levinstrike, sometimes not.

    Honestly, the nerf to quantity on Levinstrike was needed. It was dirt cheap on the MB because it was so easy to farm, which was strange for something that SE was selling for 300 white scrip as if it should have been harder to get.

    edit: all the Levinstrike I got was HQ even on the lower collectability reductions. Don't know if that was RNG or intended.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 12-10-2020 at 08:47 AM.

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    Hmm, interesting. I'll have to try if maxing out collectability has an effect on the quantity. Below 1000 I've never got more than one at a time.
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    A rotation from the balance discord that I am currently using. scurntiny-meticulous-scruntiny-meticulous-solid reason-scour. My gatherers are still in melded i460 and I used a coffee biscut. Hit 1000 using this rotation though only have used it once so far but feel free to give it go yourselves. Make sure you got at least 800gp makes things easier. The Solid reason is for extra attempt as depending on stats you may end up with only 1 chance to collect, so throwing solid reason should give you two.

    extra bit of info

    800-844 scour
    850-999 meticulous
    1000- collect
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 12-14-2020 at 02:38 PM.

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    Looks like 1000 collectability always gives 1-3 aethersand, and may give 6 if the bonus procs. So that's definitely the way to go.

    As for rotation, my strategy so far has been to hit meticulous first, and if it procs the no-integrity-loss, use two scrutinized actions as appropriate, get to 1000 collectability. Otherwise if my GP is nearly full I'll use two scrutinies even if it results in only one item being collected. Good point about solid reason though, it's slightly cheaper than two scrutinies so worth using if there's only one attempt left and collectability is at 1000. I've long thought of it as fairly useless and didn't think to apply it to this context.
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    So far I have seen 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 sands form reductions. Never 5 yet.

    I don't do spreadsheets but the commonality seems to be 1 > 2 > 3 <> 6 >> 4.
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