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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If I was going to place "FF3 companion homages" somewhere in the story as a group, I would guess them to have been Salina and Desch's companions - tying into whatever that weird recording from Heaven-on-High was hinting at. It certainly sounded like there was more history to be uncovered there.
    Oh, Salina.

    Last we heard from her, she was literally presented as a voice in G'raha's head telling him to do things, not unlike our own early relationship with Hydaelyn. She was clearly planning for something, as was reaffirmed by the name-drop in Heaven-on-High, but lately, we've been pretending that all of that was tied up with a bow after the Tycoon project found a Calamity-prevention-related use for the Crystal Tower.


    Honestly, it could all just be an early "twist" that they've since decided was just too fricking bonkers even for the places the story has been these days, and they're hoping to let the whole incident fade quietly in the background. But with the blood thing coming back up this past patch, maybe the weirdness has only just begun?
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    Ah, but since the tower ISN"T going to be used for calaminty prevention purposes, that frees Salina to be brought back into rotation.
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  3. #183
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    I didn't notice until someone pointed it out, but all of the bosses unique to Delubrum Reginae appear to be using the resistance weapons, which is most readily observable with the one shown on the preview website that has the DRK sword.

    Can't help but wonder what the context behind that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I didn't notice until someone pointed it out, but all of the bosses unique to Delubrum Reginae appear to be using the resistance weapons, which is most readily observable with the one shown on the preview website that has the DRK sword.

    Can't help but wonder what the context behind that is.
    I'd hazzard to guess that the tempered Blades are given auracite which turns them into monsters. Thus the Empire will use the weapons of the resistance, the symbols of their culture and rallying cry for the resistance against them.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I'd hazzard to guess that the tempered Blades are given auracite which turns them into monsters. Thus the Empire will use the weapons of the resistance, the symbols of their culture and rallying cry for the resistance against them.
    One thing I think is important to clarify that its AN Empire not THE Empire we face in Bozja. Ever since not reporting to the capital when the succession crisis began after Varis' assassination, the IVth Imperial Legion were branded as traitors to the Garlean Empire and all their efforts in Bozja, Nagxia, and Dalmasca is to set up a new kingdom apart from dying Garlemald. So while we face Imperial Legion forces and technology, they are independent from Garlemald proper.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank_Hotspur View Post
    One thing I think is important to clarify that its AN Empire not THE Empire we face in Bozja. Ever since not reporting to the capital when the succession crisis began after Varis' assassination, the IVth Imperial Legion were branded as traitors to the Garlean Empire and all their efforts in Bozja, Nagxia, and Dalmasca is to set up a new kingdom apart from dying Garlemald. So while we face Imperial Legion forces and technology, they are independent from Garlemald proper.
    With the recent declarations of building a new nation that will outlast the Garleans that takes some of its philosophies while ditching others as well as its location on the map between Islabard and Orthard I see the IV legion as more of a Byzantine Empire equivalent to the FF XIV universe. The Byzantine Empire or Eastern Roman Empire, located between Europe and Asia, was one of the two halves of the Roman Empire when it split. It too took many philosophies from the roman state while also adapting new ones. It was both seen as a continuation of the Roman empire as well as its own nation, it also outlasted the Western Roman Empire, where the capitol and much of its ancestral influence was located, by nearly 1000 years.

    There is also the matter of one of the Byzantines greatest rivals the Sassanians. Much like the Byzantines where considered a continuation of Rome the Sassanians where considered a continuation of the Persian Empire. Part of why it was considered such was because it was one of the few times that it is that the Persian Homeland in the Iranian Platuae was controlled by a truly Persian Dynasty. before hand they had been conquered by Alexander the great and were later ruled over by the Parthians, foreign dynasties. Now Bozja has a lot of Persian parallels culturally in terms of architecture, music, and most notably Gunhildr's blades which are a clear parallels to the 1000 immortals of the Achaemenid Empire (the first Persian dynasty the Sassanians where emulating and the one most people think of).

    Now if this is intentional there are some differences between this conflict in game that are much different between its real world counter part. For instance the Bozjan forces vs the IV legion plays out much more similar to the rebels vs empire trope, where as in real life Byzantine and Sassania where two equally powerful empires that competed with each other for control of the middle east, much more similar to the rivalry between Archadia and Rosaria in FF XII. But still it It could be possible that Noah actually succeeds in establishing his new Nation, they have set up the IV legion to outlast Garlemald. If we do in fact restore Bozja to its former power then perhaps they and they and the Dalmascan resistance become a Sassanian Empire equivalent and we get another rivalry between nations or power struggle after the current Garlean arch is ended most likely in 6.0.
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I didn't notice until someone pointed it out, but all of the bosses unique to Delubrum Reginae appear to be using the resistance weapons, which is most readily observable with the one shown on the preview website that has the DRK sword.

    Can't help but wonder what the context behind that is.
    just watched the 5.4 trailer again and found another 4 Relics being used by the boss, except the croco-dino and potd floor 100 lookalike
    PLD/WAR = used by the 'mobs' looking boss, theres 4 boss on that fight but i cant quite see the other 2 weapons.
    SAM = used by the 4 hand wilding = seems like the same boss that wield Woebord/DRK's ?
    BLM = kinda hard to see with the flashy effect but you can clearly see the 'ring'.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by legg View Post
    just watched the 5.4 trailer again and found another 4 Relics being used by the boss, except the croco-dino and potd floor 100 lookalike
    PLD/WAR = used by the 'mobs' looking boss, theres 4 boss on that fight but i cant quite see the other 2 weapons.
    SAM = used by the 4 hand wilding = seems like the same boss that wield Woebord/DRK's ?
    BLM = kinda hard to see with the flashy effect but you can clearly see the 'ring'.
    It's likely that they are two different bosses for the sam and drk. They are cousins so it'd make sense to fight them together with maybe even aggie since they all trained in the same dojo.
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  9. #189
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    Finished the Bozja 5.45 story.

    Welp, we have... what? One patch left to resolve the Bozja story in 5.5 or 5.55? How are they going to defend Gangos, retake Bozja South, and capture Castrum Lacus Latorie in just one patch? Nevermind pushing into another zone!
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    A neat bit of lore: Lilja's dossier gives her a canon backstory and age now: 19 Years old. Given that she uses the standard Viera model, it would seem that Viera mature roughly at the same rate as Hyur, rather than in the delayed fashion of Elezen. As for her backstory itself...


    Lilja Sjaris
    Race: Viera
    Age: 19
    Birthplace: Rabanastre, Dalmasca

    A new recruit to Garlond Ironworks, Lilja first awakened to her talents as an engineer while receiving an imperial education in her native Rabanastre. Her academic accomplishments won her acceptance to the prestigious Magitek Academy in the imperial capital, but ere she could relocate to commence her studies, resistance forces launched a large-scale offensive that transformed Rabanstre into a battlefield. The young Viera was forced to seek refuge in Doma, where she sustained herself by repairing machina and designing custom contraptions. Word of her uncommon expertise chanced to reach the visiting Jessie, who offered her a place at the Ironworks. Having been an admirer of the organization due to its part in the liberation effort, she accepted without a moment's hesitation.

    Despite her cheery and optimistic facade, Lilja was a conflicted soul Like no few Dalmascan orphans, she was taken into imperial care and underwent schooling intended to instill a sense of allegiance to Garlemald. And while most of her peers remained fiercely loyal to their homeland, only giving their tutors lip service, Lilja could not muster up the selfsame passion. For though she could not approve of Garlean rule, it seemed to her that the alternative, a Dalmascan monarchy, would not improve the lot of the common man.

    Further blurring the lines of her loyalty was the respect she came to hold for the occupying IVth Imperial Legion, which did not forcibly conscript civilians to its ranks. During a public address, its commander, Legatus van Gabranth, proclaimed that it falls to each man to use his talents to forge his own way in life. Lilja was among those present when these words were uttered, and they spoke to her more than any nation's standard ever could. Nevertheless, she could ill turn a blind eye to the man wrongs the Garleans committed against those they subjugated.

    All of this served to make of Lilja a woman who opposed the Empire, yet not strongly enough to take up arms against it, the seeming contradiction giving rise to a storm of self-doubt. In joining the Ironworks, however, she was able to quell her inner turmoil by focusing on a new objective: to simply be herself, a free spirit unburdened by whatever chaos may unfold around her. Witness the likes of Cid and Jessie devoting themselves to their work, she recalled the words of van Gabranth—and duly set about using such knowledge and skill as she possessed to the best of her ability.

    "Hm, perhaps I'm overthinking it...but what if we were to—"
    "Ahem. You're definitely overthinking it, Lilja. Let's actually make the thing, shall we?"
    "Yes, I suppose you're right, Jessie... Ah! There was one other idea I had..."
    "<groan> Liljaaa..."


    I was already pretty fond of her from her first appearance, but I think I may love this girl, lol.

    EDIT: And onto the new Bozja content itself!

    Mikoto's flash forward here gave me a bad feeling, seeing as how it cut short so quickly. Naturally, it turned out to be a trap. What I wasn't expecting to find out was that Misija—having borrowed Mikoto's Echo via Resonance—had the same power as her. I wonder, then who the donors for Fordola and Zenos were. I mean, aside from Fordola obviously having Krile as one of her donors, we don't know where exactly Fordola got her flash backs and Zenos got his... um... immortality, I guess?

    And as I thought from the beginning, we had to kill the Blades. But once more, the way they go out is rather surprising. The dossier for the first set, the Trinity Seeker, tells the story of Blaz and Velibor more or less adopting Aggie as their younger sister before the Bozja Rebellion came underway. I've not gotten the second Trinity dossier, but I imagine it links the remaining three together as well.

    The Queen being "not quite a primal" or something like that was kind of strange, and Save the Queen being akin to Auracite was an interesting thing to learn. Misija surviving and being detained to stand trial later was unexpected, but I suppose I've always been partial to the idea that dying is a poor form of atonement. Having to live with her crimes and potentially make amends for them also leaves open the possibility of further story content involving her.

    Oh, and we've probably lost the Bozjan Southern Front. Whoopsie! I wonder if we're going to have to raid that gigantic airship for the finale in 5.5.

    Oh, and... I do hope we prove Mikoto wrong about her flash forwards being set in stone. 'cause I really don't want her to die.


    EDIT 02: Oh, and Bwagi's dossier mentions that as a fusilier, he fights with both a sword and a gun. I can't help but wonder if that might be a possibility for a 6.0 Job. It would probably be another ranged DPS if that were the case, right? Bringing us up to 4 Tanks, 3 Healer, 4 Melee DPS, 4 Ranged DPS, and 4 Casters (yes, BLU counts).

    EDIT 03: More dossier goodness. From Mikoto's:

    Mikoto's sister is named Kagura, and she's an ex-Archon, apparently. She was stripped of her title for openly criticizing the Forum's policies and abandoned Sharlayan in disgust. Moenbryda, in turn, became Mikoto's mentor precisely to look after her after Kagura abandoned Sharlayan. It was also Moenbryda's death that spurred her on to work in the field, apparently.

    I get the feeling we're going to be meeting Kagura, either in 5.5's Bozja content, or in 6.0. And I also get the feeling that the writers really regret killing off Moenbryda as hastily as they did.
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    Last edited by Rosenstrauch; 02-03-2021 at 05:20 AM. Reason: Actually finishing my post.

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