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  1. #41
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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I don't get it. I really don't. Who's even deciding on this stuff? Not only that but now single weaving needs to be clipped because of the broil pot buff. Which makes SCH gameplay super clunky.
    And like others have said, it makes higher level players want to heal less and get as much out of their organic double weave windows.

    I just can't anymore.
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  2. #42
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Somebody please tell me how the Japanese players are feeling about these changes. I have to know how they feel about all of this.
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  3. #43
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    Grimoire-M's Avatar
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    I don't get it. I really don't. Who's even deciding on this stuff? Not only that but now single weaving needs to be clipped because of the broil pot buff. Which makes SCH gameplay super clunky.
    And like others have said, it makes higher level players want to heal less and get as much out of their organic double weave windows.

    I just can't anymore.
    Single Weaving already needed to be, but this even kills double-weaving. Clip Everything unless you can do it on the move, because that's the only time you're gonna use Ruin II. It needs to be buffed to at least 250 potency now just to break even against clipping.
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  4. #44
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    Renkei Fukai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Somebody please tell me how the Japanese players are feeling about these changes. I have to know how they feel about all of this.
    THE JP Community has pretty much come to terms that no big balance adjustments will occur until 6.0.
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  5. #45
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    AC9Breaker's Avatar
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    Ezekyle Abaddon
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I'm pretty sure this is exactly the case. If you look at the history of this game and how they've treated class changes, this is the pattern. They usually make major class changes during expansions and healers require major changes. While I do think there are small things that can be done now, I don't expect any change made until 6.0 to alleviate the situation. Although I find all the hyperbole and reactions from people to be amusing. As if the devs never try to fix problem spots in the game or for that matter, as if they don't ever listen to the community.
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    "Brotherhood asked for no friendship, only loyalty. They stood back to back as the galaxy burned - always brothers, never friends; traitors together unto the last."

    --an excerpt from a Night Lords Novel, "Void Stalkers" Chapter X: Revenge.

  6. #46
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    Although I find all the hyperbole and reactions from people to be amusing. As if the devs never try to fix problem spots in the game or for that matter, as if they don't ever listen to the community.
    Oh they do. They just think Sylphie Curebot 9000 is peak healer gameplay, and don't understand the objection to it. They fix problems they think are problems.
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  7. #47
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    I'm pretty sure this is exactly the case. If you look at the history of this game and how they've treated class changes, this is the pattern. They usually make major class changes during expansions and healers require major changes. While I do think there are small things that can be done now, I don't expect any change made until 6.0 to alleviate the situation. Although I find all the hyperbole and reactions from people to be amusing. As if the devs never try to fix problem spots in the game or for that matter, as if they don't ever listen to the community.
    The problem is, besides the fact that nobody wants to go a whole expansion with their job playing like junk, that the "small adjustments" they make during said expansion actually make the problem worse. There were several other "small potency changes" they could've made that wouldn't have actively spit in the face of every player of that job. This shows a significant lack of understanding of their own playerbase and their own combat design which does not bode well for 6.0
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  8. #48
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    Althena Rolair
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    They usually make major class changes during expansions and healers require major changes.
    Aw gee, sure am glad that healers have to wait, when MNK NIN and SMN didnt have to wait. Its obvious they favor DPS.
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  9. #49
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Are they ever going to acknowledge the fairy skill ghosting? They want us to heal more but Fey Blessing still has a laughable potency, absurd 60 sec cooldown, and a fey guage requirement while Aetherflow can't even be triggered outside of combat. Art of War just looks dumb and Selene is a useless palette swap for Eos. Im so unhappy with this expansion. It murdered everything I loved about Scholar. The only thing they did right was give Energy Drain back and then they go and do this. Did no one stop and think that the potency balance to Broil 3 and Biolysis would just be hard nerf to Scholar dps in all duties before we have access to those skills. Scholar dps is supposed to make up for their weaker healing in dungeons. Like these changes arent going to affect how anyone plays besides top tier optimizers so what was the point?
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  10. #50
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    Like these changes arent going to affect how anyone plays besides top tier optimizers so what was the point?
    Pretty sure even top tier optimizers would prefer their job to not play like hot garbage.
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