The Monk Rework is a bit overkill

[Sqwall]

More then likely monk will get the nerf bat in 5.45, since a lot of people are already theorizing optimal rotations. I know I have and it's even crazier with the RoE change when I can weave that in my GCD's to literally be a lazy pile and forget positionals.

Anatman for crying out loud! I have finally found a use for anatman to use before perfect balance to carry my twin buff and form timer through my burst phase.

Never thought I would say Anatman has a use?!

[Maltothoris]

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a fix in either patch 5.41 or 5.45 increasing the potency of tornado kick back to its original potency and heck maybe even forbidden chakra back up as well.

Overall, I guess we'll just need to wait and see how it plays out.

[Leareaux]

Kinda disappointed to not see Twin Snakes duration become a part of the job gauge. As long as the window for a double True Strike before reapplication is as razor thin as it is, that duration needs more visibility.

Meditation still conflicts with SSS

The changes seem to make current Monk at least playable, but I believe it along with SMN still deserves the MCH rework treatment in 6.0

[Ultimatecalibur]

Kinda disappointed to not see Twin Snakes duration become a part of the job gauge. As long as the window for a double True Strike before reapplication is as razor thin as it is, that duration needs more visibility.

Twin Snakes likely received the largest potency increase of the core weapon skills to make double True Strike less of a dps gain if it is still even a gain.

Some quick napkin math actually puts the double true rotation about 2 potency lower than the Twin/True rotation if you can't get every Twin under the buff.

Twin+True: 1.1*(260+300)/2 = 308
Twin(unbuffed)+True+True: (260+1.1*(300*2))/3 = 306.6
Twin(buffed)+True+true: 1.1*(260+300*2)/3 = 315

To make Double True a dps gain you would need a gcd of ~1.65 (the equivalent of a 2.08 base gcd previously).

[Yneko]

Hello, here is the potency math for non-burst standard (3x DK, 3x TwS, 4x SP, 3x LBS, 3x TS, 2x Demo) and double TS rotation including AAs.

Burst phase is not included because right now I can't predict how opener/burst phase will change and I do not want ot waste my time figuring it out before having the new kit in my hands.

Sorry for all the hidden calculations, I just copy-pasted and upgraded my excell sheet I used for years now.

TL/DR: It's not buff, nor nerf.

Burst phase might be a boost, as: 1) more TFC are possible and 2) more raid-wide buff from new Brotherhood - but it probably won't be anything "ground breaking". Maybe we'll see -10 potency in 5.5 on a skill or two.

PSA: Double TS is no longer a dmg boost.

https://imgur.com/a/N0WaT48

EDIT: spellcheck and image link

[Gameovers]

The only question I need answered is what is going to be the new opener? I've been using HW's opener this whole time cause I hate Anatman and never learned the actual opener for shadows. So what's gonna be monks new one since PB and everything else has now been changed completely?

Keep in mind I'm not 80 on monk yet either so..... I just hit 76 before maint T.T

[ICountFrom0]

Anatman now, it just preserves your place in the rotation if your at a place in the boss where you can't attack, but also don't have to move? Does it do anything else?

[RyuDragnier]

Anatman now, it just preserves your place in the rotation if your at a place in the boss where you can't attack, but also don't have to move? Does it do anything else?

It also refreshes and freezes the timer for Twin Snakes buff.

[Arrius]

It also refreshes and freezes the timer for Twin Snakes buff.

Still only a 15 second buff window though, which remains still to be quite a tight timer compared to the ones the dragoon and samurai get from their actions.

[silverdragontyr]

Nope. It's useless except for very VERY niche scenario. It's only good if you have twin snakes up, and you can't attack the boss and you don't have to move.