The Monk Rework is a bit overkill

[Renkei]

The new Riddle of Earth is 18s total seconds of positional ignoring every 90s as you would recover a charge every 30s.

you're right derp, Still worth the mitigation and other melee jobs don't even have similar utility besides true north.

I can't agree more, honestly. We all know the drill this late into an expansion though. Fingers arent even crossed for 6.0 when it comes to that factor, but i guess theyre sort of together, loosely.

Yeah, We are going to have this content for a year and a half next patch lol.

[Teno]

I think the riddle of earth change is fun, it promotes a more proactive gameplay, whereas the old riddle of earth was a bit too passive with its long duration.

[Renkei]

I think the riddle of earth change is fun, it promotes a more proactive gameplay, whereas the old riddle of earth was a bit too passive with its long duration.

I Agree

Id expect the real fleshed out version in 6.0 the buffs all around is predictable Does this make people want to go back to, or try monk now?

there's a couple jobs right now that feel like they are really missing out on things this expansion lowered overall complexity for the majority of jobs.

[ADVSS]

I Agree


there's a couple jobs right now that feel like they are really missing out on things this expansion lowered overall complexity for the majority of jobs.

I can't agree more, honestly. We all know the drill this late into an expansion though. Fingers arent even crossed for 6.0 when it comes to that factor, but i guess theyre sort of together, loosely.

[ADVSS]

Id expect the real fleshed out version in 6.0 the buffs all around is predictable Does this make people want to go back to, or try monk now?

[Sapphidia]

Isnt Monk now going to be HORRIBLY overstocked on OGCD abilities?

It was already super busy but inside a Brotherhood window you'll now have more chakra procs than before, AND a new Tornado kick to weave in, AND potentially more presses needed for Riddle of Earth. Monk was already one of the few jobs that CANNOT double weave due to the attack speed, and whilst I'm not a Monk Main myself I have a good friend who's mained it since day 1 and who's now worried it'll be literally impossible to fit in all the required OGCD abilities without annoying cooldown drift or wasted chakra procs.

It also seems like it has potential to make Monk the spammiest job. Is noone else concerned about the massive OGCD bloat from the changes?

If people didn't like monk because it felt too spammy before, they'll surely hate it even more now. Was GL dropping that much of a turn-off?

[VentVanitas]

Isnt Monk now going to be HORRIBLY overstocked on OGCD abilities?

It was already super busy but inside a Brotherhood window you'll now have more chakra procs than before, AND a new Tornado kick to weave in, AND potentially more presses needed for Riddle of Earth. Monk was already one of the few jobs that CANNOT double weave due to the attack speed, and whilst I'm not a Monk Main myself I have a good friend who's mained it since day 1 and who's now worried it'll be literally impossible to fit in all the required OGCD abilities without annoying cooldown drift or wasted chakra procs.

It also seems like it has potential to make Monk the spammiest job. Is noone else concerned about the massive OGCD bloat from the changes?

If people didn't like monk because it felt too spammy before, they'll surely hate it even more now. Was GL dropping that much of a turn-off?

Compared to how busy Double TK was from Stormblood, this is nothing.

However, overcapping on chakra is most definitely going to be a more prevalent issue now.

[Renkei]

Isnt Monk now going to be HORRIBLY overstocked on OGCD abilities?

It was already super busy but inside a Brotherhood window you'll now have more chakra procs than before, AND a new Tornado kick to weave in, AND potentially more presses needed for Riddle of Earth. Monk was already one of the few jobs that CANNOT double weave due to the attack speed, and whilst I'm not a Monk Main myself I have a good friend who's mained it since day 1 and who's now worried it'll be literally impossible to fit in all the required OGCD abilities without annoying cooldown drift or wasted chakra procs.

It also seems like it has potential to make Monk the spammiest job. Is noone else concerned about the massive OGCD bloat from the changes?

If people didn't like monk because it felt too spammy before, they'll surely hate it even more now. Was GL dropping that much of a turn-off?

Yeah, Because a lot of jobs don't lose damage from boss transitions and kept it stored, other jobs still have that issue but won't be worked on until 6.0

[Irisdina_Wiloh]

Compared to how busy Double TK was from Stormblood, this is nothing.

However, overcapping on chakra is most definitely going to be a more prevalent issue now.

It's not something that can be avoided, not with the current system. I'm fine with overcapping even if it's not optimal, it's just how it will have to be and then hopefully come 6.0 they revamp the chakra system to avoid this. As it is though, i'm happy to get to press it more often and not be at the mercy of rng on top of rng to get chakra anymore.

[ItMe]

Does this make people want to go back to, or try monk now?

Yes, it makes me wanna try MNK.
Greased Lightning looked like a mondo pain and was one of the only things stopping me from picking up the job. Now that it's gone I'm actually gonna give the class a shot (even though all the SAM mains I know says SAM and MNK fill the same niche but SAM is better).