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    I thought Ishgard was always kinda tight regarding people entering, but I'm sure the echo has something to do with Aether-y energy and such. We don't know the details exactly, yet. However, we do know that the guy in the opening cutscene never moved from his seat. I'm more inclined to believe that he really did see the past, it's the only thing that makes sense.

    One thing SE does do well is keeping all the story facts straight, so I'm sure(I hope...) they wouldn't leave glaring holes in their story like that.
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    So he, Alfagar, Thancred, Yda, Papylamo, Y'shtola, Padme, Anakin and Obi wan set out to confront the coming danger

    I lol'd so hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_Caldera View Post
    I'm more inclined to believe that he really did see the past, it's the only thing that makes sense.
    You don't think it's possible that the whole event happened in the past?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    I lol'd so hard.
    I'll be here all week, folks
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  4. #14
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    I think it's possible, but unlikely. Like you said, Adventurer's Guilds were established to combat mercenaries with nothing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_Caldera View Post
    I think it's possible, but unlikely. Like you said, Adventurer's Guilds were established to combat mercenaries with nothing to do.
    That's true,.... and I like your hair....

    Its possible that Ishgard broke off communication AFTER the Garleans pulled out... in fact, this battle could be one of the precipitating factors in Ishgard closing it's doors... So a case could be made that the adventurer in the movie IS indeed in Ishgard over 10 years ago

    the garleans are battling dragons... just like the Ishgardians... "An enemy of my enemy" and all that
    Looks like this battle caused shit to get too real and the Archbishop closed up shop....

    I would accept the guildleve/echo story if it wasn't for the fact that its obviously in an unknown adventurers guild....

    I love lore discussions
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  6. #16
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    Thanks for posting this. I don't remember anything about Bozja Citadel though. What happened there?
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamRockwell View Post
    Thanks for posting this. I don't remember anything about Bozja Citadel though. What happened there?
    We don't know.... but *super spoiler warning*

    In one of the Gridania company quests (Two Vans are better than one)...
    You use the echo on a soldier who has overheard a conversation between Gaius van Baelsar (The Black Armor judge) and Nael van Darnus (The white one)

    Gaius is asking if it is wise to go through with Meteor (Bringing down the moon, Dalamud using Allagan Technology) because it will destroy Eorzea and who wants to rule over a continent that has been destroyed when they could easily just invade it.

    Then he goes on to remind him that they can't even control where it lands when they bring it down...

    Gaius: "Do you not remember? that day ten years ago was an utter failure - a blemish on the legacy of Garlemald. We learned that we could not control where Dalamud would fall. that is why meteor was abandoned.
    I do not wish to live to see another Bozja Citadel. If you succeed in bringing down Dalamud, all of Eorzea will cease to be"


    In perfect Sephiroth Form.... Nael responds with,
    "Yes, but how much brighter the light that shined from the void! Think of it, Gaius! Within that nothingness (Meaning Eorzea after it has been destroyed by Dalamud) lies the root of all creation - pure potential, limitless possibility! This is the wisdom of the Ancients

    If that doesn't sound like Sephy, I don't know what does!!!!!
    The story underneath is good... really good.
    It has elements of FF6, FF7, FF11 and FF12

    Also... being that Bozja Citadel has never been referenced, I am assuming it was in Garlean territory...
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  8. #18
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    I didn't like how there's no empire zones or the fact that it just ends and I didn't even know what was going on
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuNin View Post
    I didn't like how there's no empire zones or the fact that it just ends and I didn't even know what was going on
    It's weird... the 46 story quest is cool looking... and introduces an integral antagonist in the story....
    But isn't really EVENTFUL or even worth mentioning in terms of the story.....

    In fact... in retrospect it is very backwards....
    Its possible that a new player will do many of the company quests that involve the empire (and Gaius van Baelsar) before ever doing the 46 quest and being formally introduced to him

    In terms of a timeline... the company and main scenario quests are completely separate, and it is impossible to differentiate what happens... and when.. mainly because you can do either one first.... and in the company quests, the members of the circle of knowing seem to have no idea they saved your ass in the 46 quest either....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post

    In perfect Sephiroth Form.... Nael responds with,
    "Yes, but how much brighter the light that shined from the void! Think of it, Gaius! Within that nothingness (Meaning Eorzea after it has been destroyed by Dalamud) lies the root of all creation - pure potential, limitless possibility! This is the wisdom of the Ancients

    If that doesn't sound like Sephy, I don't know what does!!!!!

    This ain't Sephiroth talking! It's Yoshi-P!!!!
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