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  1. #21
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The removal of TP

    TP honestly served only one purpose, limiting AoE on the physical classes. Weaponskill combos generally ate TP equal to the regen, and thus were effectively free.
    Really the same purpose it served would be done by adding a MP cost to AoE skills.


    Cross-class skills
    The Role actions are kind of a reworked version of that idea. It's not quite the same and certain combinations did go away but they didn't just remove the system... Also, certain cross-class skills were more required than others, so you only had so much to work with when it came to customization...


    Greased Lightning
    The biggest problem with Greased Lightning was that it was an unavoidable loss of DPS as you had to build up the stacks at the start of a fight, and if you at any point during a fight had controls disabled by them fancy mid fight scenes or something you lose the GL and had to rebuild it lowering your DPS simply because you're playing MNK.
    The best you can do to minimize this is Perfect Balance to throw out 4 Snap Punches...
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  2. #22
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cetek14 View Post
    So that means that almost no one here is allowed to voice opinion on this forum.
    no, people can voice opinions until they say absurd crap like "i, who have never coded in my life, am saying that this coding issue is easy that the devs are lazy for not doing it", which is what op said. opinions are fine. pulling things out of where the sun doesn't shine isn't.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    I don’t disagree, but we’re at a point where there isn’t much of what makes this game a RPG left.
    If that's your way of saying you disagree with many of the QoL changes, then I'll just say those are not what makes this game an RPG to me and I'm glad for the ongoing QoL improvements.

    They are bleeding subs while ignoring complaints that have been on going since 2.0
    I'm not sure how you would even know that, and as for outstanding complaints, I'm sure there are reasons for it, though not all complaints can realistically be resolved regardless.

    They have r fixed housing and haven’t fixed Praetorium.

    Sure it’s going to take work, but passionate people don’t mind going work.

    But again, we’re losing content at a rapid pace.

    Additional dungeons, deep dungeons, portions of map dungeons (5 doors instead of 7), entire map dungeons (thief maps), things are getting homogenized (SCH/AST/WHM), content isn’t getting expanded (too long to list), new content is coming out unfinished (GNB/DNC, Hrothgar/Viera)

    What’s replacing all of it?

    “Explorer mode” and “Sticker mode.”

    To me that’s fluff, not “content.”
    The thing is, your various complaints here seems to be mostly subjective. Races, at the very least, are no less fluff than "sticker mode," and I don't see how the new jobs could be considered unfinished content (or the new races for that matter). Even saying we're losing content is misleading as contents are added gradually, and side contents could change.
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    Last edited by linayar; 12-05-2020 at 05:12 PM.

  4. #24
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    Renkei's Avatar
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    Renkei Fukai
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    These are solid suggestions thanks for the input! I prefer them integrating removed properties into other abilities, i haven't been enjoying the constant dumbing down of jobs. some jobs lost their identities completely already.
    I am familiar with the challenges of implementing these things but the amount of skill juggling they've done could of been compressed in a more efficient way at least for some changes felt like they were to trapped in their own heads to see the big picture. Hoping the next expansion focuses more on improving instead of taking away.

    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    no, people can voice opinions until they say absurd crap like "i, who have never coded in my life, am saying that this coding issue is easy that the devs are lazy for not doing it", which is what op said. opinions are fine. pulling things out of where the sun doesn't shine isn't.

    Idk where this started in this thread but lets agree to stop all ad hominem here.
    some of the replies seem to coming to gas-light level content, lets be mature here and move on.
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    Last edited by Renkei; 12-05-2020 at 08:39 PM.

  5. #25
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Re: Battle leves

    Personally I'm fine they're no longer in use, but I do like the idea of increasing the xp given for pre-50 to level 2nd-3rd etc jobs quicker. Alternatively, doing leves at level cap to get tomestones would be nice. Basically just an alternative way to play. My wife hates doing dungeons but wants to level and basically does so exclusively via Trust/Squadrons now...would be nice to give her something she can do for a short big here or there as an alternative that is worth the time.

    The problem with a lot of the other removals is there really just isn't enough variety in gameplay to merit a lot of extra bells and whistles like point allotment. Other MMOs have more variety in open world content which demands some variety in builds such as stealth or certain skill/ability combos to take on notorious monsters etc. It needs a lot of things on the backend before these kinds of options are even useful. Moreover, since every character has access to every job, there really isn't a need for builds. If you wanna be tanky, play a tank..essentially. No need to spec a WHM to tank.
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    RIP Grenado Shot. You will be missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Additional dungeons, deep dungeons, portions of map dungeons (5 doors instead of 7), entire map dungeons (thief maps), things are getting homogenized (SCH/AST/WHM), content isn’t getting expanded (too long to list), new content is coming out unfinished (GNB/DNC, Hrothgar/Viera)

    What’s replacing all of it?

    “Explorer mode” and “Sticker mode.”

    To me that’s fluff, not “content.”
    I mean, he does have a point. I'd like to see more RPG in this MMO, too. Stats are boring, gear is boring (bar the appearance) and jobs become more and more boring because of the DPS or bust mindset.

    But we also got Ocean Fishing and Bozja which I'll gladly take over a 2nd dungeon since they are way too formulaic at this point.

    In the end I can see some slight improvements but I'm not holding my breath either.
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    Thread recap

    I am just going to recap this thread, based on how others post and how I see it.


    Daniolaut:
    I dont like when things are deleted.

    I strongly believe in Square-Enix, and have an understanding of what they are capable of.

    I wish to see them more passionate about making the game better in every aspect.

    (Likes: 1)


    Others:
    I like it when things are deleted. Delete Monk

    The dev's arent capable of many things, you shouldnt assume they can accomplish things.

    You cannot discuss video games if you're not a video game developer, its literally like Brain Surgery. You absolutely must be certified.

    You're a bad man, you shouldnt be allowed to talk on the forums troll troll.

    (Likes: over 9,000)
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    Player Ammokkx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    I am just going to recap this thread, based on how others post and how I see it.
    what did I say about being humble?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    I am just going to recap this thread, based on how others post and how I see it.
    This is called a strawman fallacy.
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