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    Deceptus Keelon
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    SE: Your world visit is being abused and we can't do anything about it.

    Here on Primal Data Center, Behemoth Server there is a certain character, who I will not name, who teleports to Behemoth and early pulls S Rank mobs as soon as they pop.

    He does not help spawn them.

    As a community, we have decided to wait for travelers who are trying to get to these marks and someone from outside of our community is ruining our experience and there is literally nothing we can do about it.
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    Egil Vairemont
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    Jenova has this problem too. It's not against the ToS to do this as Hunts are and forever will be first come first serve until SE says or does otherwise. Turning them into boss fates would be a start but I wouldn't know how they'd begin to implement many possible FATE points on top of the ones already in the game. Or require taking attacks from a set amount of players before any real damage could be done, say twenty or thirty people. Do maybe ten for A ranks and leave B ranks alone as they will spawn in five seconds somewhere else after they die. And with the latter in place, the players who choose to kill it anyway while the required count, which could be a buff named something like "Fool's Bane", has not been resolved, would receive no rewards and instead be given a punishment like a debuff that prevents them from attacking any hunt mark for 24 hours similar to not being able to attack FATE targets if your level is too high.
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    That's sad to hear, but between the hunt community and how SE has responded to this behavior the response is there are no early pulls. The fact the community places these rules is a thing the community did/does. SE has shown more than once that they will not enforce something that the community has placed on itself.

    It would be nice if crap like this wouldn't happen and that rules would be in place, but then that would be infringement on other people's fun. And they can't have that now... just look at their stance on dps meters or the removal of people off both parties friends list. We can't have the minority's feelings hurt in any way.
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    Vox Velius
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    Funny. I'm on behemoth and it seems like I am seeing shouts for hunt trains every day or every other day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    Funny. I'm on behemoth and it seems like I am seeing shouts for hunt trains every day or every other day.
    This isn't about the lack of hunt trains, but someone who is from a different server early pulling S ranked hunts. Not sure if this is every single S rank or just ARR and HW ones. Current and maybe even Stormblood ones might not be as bad as the other two since ShB and SB don't melt so easily as HW and ARR.

    Again there isn't much people can do as we know how many feel about if early pulling is even a thing let alone if it's an ok thing to do. Along with what the Devs have said in the past about said topic.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Wait, is this person somebody who has the same word twice in a row? If so, the guy has been a problem for a long time.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Here on Primal Data Center, Behemoth Server there is a certain character, who I will not name, who teleports to Behemoth and early pulls S Rank mobs as soon as they pop.

    He does not help spawn them.

    As a community, we have decided to wait for travelers who are trying to get to these marks and someone from outside of our community is ruining our experience and there is literally nothing we can do about it.
    There is one thing you can do. Convince the community not to attack if someone pulls before the announced pull time. Not even ARR S ranks are going to die that fast if only one player is attacking. Let them beat on it solo for a minute or two so more members of the community arrive and everyone can join in. Even if a few others join in early, enough are usually willing to wait so others can finish getting there.

    If the community is truly in agreement, it will work. If it's not working, then only a small portion of the community is actually in agreement. That small portion doesn't have the right to force its adopted customs on other players. Ultimately, SE sets the rules. To them, a S rank is fair game to all players on a data center once it is spawned, regardless of who spawned it.

    If you feel the rules of the Hunt should be changed now that cross world play has added a new dynamic, then list your suggestions for what should be changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    Funny. I'm on behemoth and it seems like I am seeing shouts for hunt trains every day or every other day.
    Hunt trains are for A ranks, not S ranks. S ranks offer higher rewards per kill but are rarer due to increased spawn times. A certain number must be killed for the hunt achievements that reward mounts, making them very popular when they do appear.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 12-07-2020 at 10:51 AM.