What would the game be life if everythign was single target?

[Morningstar1337]

A thought experiment and a hypothetical scenario. FFXIV, except from 1 to 80 there is no holy, no medica, no flare, no unleash absolutely no AoE attacks or heals that players (except maybe BLU) could use.

How would you think the game would be like in that scenario? Do you think it would discourage tanks from mass pulling due to having to establish and reestablish enmity? Would the Healers have to pick and choose who lives or dies? Would the DPS have more situational awareness with dodging AoEs and targeting mobs that they tank targets? Would the average dungeon clear take longer?

[linayar]

NIGHTMARE

Sincerely,
Someone who doesn't mind people single pulling in dungeons (at least use AOE moves).

[SturmChurro]

NIGHTMARE

Sincerely,
Someone who doesn't mind people single pulling in dungeons (at least use AOE moves).

"AOE"? What is that?

[linayar]

"AOE"? What is that?

It's when you can be lazy and hit more than one target with a push of a button.

BE LAZY AND HIT THOSE AOE MOVES!

[Kaurhz]

Where's the unsubscribe button?

No seriously, I get what you've done here and it's very clever.. With no AoEs in the game, it wouldn't be really practical or advantageous to mass pull, and dungeons would take a lot longer!

[Ammokkx]

A thought experiment and a hypothetical scenario. FFXIV, except from 1 to 80 there is no holy, no medica, no flare, no unleash absolutely no AoE attacks or heals that players (except maybe BLU) could use.

How would you think the game would be like in that scenario? Do you think it would discourage tanks from mass pulling due to having to establish and reestablish enmity? Would the Healers have to pick and choose who lives or dies? Would the DPS have more situational awareness with dodging AoEs and targeting mobs that they tank targets? Would the average dungeon clear take longer?

If the game was as it is now then, obviously, everything would slow down to a crawl. That being said, I cannot in good faith see "no aoe moves" and assume the design of the game doesn't compensate. It'd definitely make sure you didn't face too many enemies at once, and that you chew through enemies at about the same rate you would currently using AoE attacks.

I'd say the game would definitely come across as a lot more barren because having huge mobs swarm you and slowly die out is very satisfying to see, and you just cannot get castrum-level madness in a system with no multi-targeting attacks. I think it's a bit too restrictive and the game would be more boring as a result.

[Mavrias]

So, every dungeon would be like playing with people who can't do basic multiplication? That'd be a "no" from me, dog.

[Saccharin]

A thought experiment and a hypothetical scenario. FFXIV, except from 1 to 80 there is no holy, no medica, no flare, no unleash absolutely no AoE attacks or heals that players (except maybe BLU) could use.

How would you think the game would be like in that scenario? Do you think it would discourage tanks from mass pulling due to having to establish and reestablish enmity? Would the Healers have to pick and choose who lives or dies? Would the DPS have more situational awareness with dodging AoEs and targeting mobs that they tank targets? Would the average dungeon clear take longer?

Where's the unsubscribe button?

No seriously, I get what you've done here and it's very clever.. With no AoEs in the game, it wouldn't be really practical or advantageous to mass pull, and dungeons would take a lot longer!

If I recall correctly there wasn't plans to have AoE spells when they first redesigned Ff14 but added them later in development. If you notice it wasn't until later expansions we got proper AoE toolkits.

If we didn't have AoE then instances would be designed with that in mind.

It could mean more meaningful trash encounters but i can see how that would get boring. It could also mean Sleep and such CC spells would have a used.

I find AoE mass pulls bad. If you move out of stuff then that a fair loss in dps so you dont get that feel of mass dps. Most mob packs have some kind of dodge mechanic.

[Iscah]

Playing mostly as red mage, I find AoE boring compared to single-target attacks. The gauge take ages to fill and there's no satisfying finish to the melee phase.

[Jojoya]

How would you think the game would be like in that scenario?

A series of Sastasha-style dungeons.

Where's the unsubscribe button?

No seriously, I get what you've done here and it's very clever.. With no AoEs in the game, it wouldn't be really practical or advantageous to mass pull, and dungeons would take a lot longer!

Except players are only willing to spend a certain amount of time in a dungeon before they decide it's not worth the trouble.

Make every dungeon take a long time and they'll stop running dungeons, which likely means they'd end up quitting the game if completing dungeons is required for progression.