Thread: Healer Unhappiness exists on the Jap Healing Forums as well.

I found this post to be a pretty accurate comparison to our sentiments on the English-side of the language divide. Pardon the translation. To summarize: homogonization has stripped the 3 archetypes of individuality--if not identity. Too much has been removed from dps rotations from the Scholar, the AST card system is bland, and White Mage is okay...

From KunaYuki https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...30107-KunaYuki

"Even so, I was wondering what it was like as a main healer, such as being unsatisfactory. ... I want it too. I feel that my ID has become particularly difficult. Raids are good, but scholars: I think that scholars are scientists even if they look at actions, but it seems that the scholar's peculiarity is diminishing because it has been too unified with other healers. I am also doing it [playing these jobs] . ≪Miazuma also disappeared here and bio system remains, but it is regrettable that Miazuma Biola Vane spreads, continuous damage of shadow flare, and the real pleasure of scholars have disappeared. Astrologer: I wonder what this job is like when it's gone. It's a little changed with the next patch? I had a thought. This is the point where the “wheel of fortune” changes drastically. If it is a Noctor, I think that I could not move as it was, but continued recovery, and if it was a Dyer, I could move with a damage reduction barrier, but I do not know what will happen because I will touch it, but the only damage is everyone. The astrologer's real pleasure of defending is lost. I think that the opposite property of Dyer Noctor is that good, but I think that Dyer's conventional type is also good. Couldn't it have been possible to make a range version of the crossing of stars without changing the wheel of fate? I think that at the end it is too unified and loses individuality. The white magician is the white magician, the scholar is the scholar, the astrologer is the astrologer, all have different names, and the effects are all the same. The white magician is not a scholar, not an astrologer. I don't feel like this exists anymore, so I think healers should have more personality, such as black mages, which is strong on a single unit, and casters, which is strong on a range, like magis. In terms of recovery, I hope Pure and Barrier will not lose their individuality in the future."


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[Original text]そんな中でも物足りなさなどちょっとメインヒーラーとしてどうなんだろうと思ったこと 　言いたいと思います。 ...も欲しいなと思います。特にIDがしんどくなったなという気がします。レイド系はいいですけど 　学者：学者はアクションとか見てても科学者というコンセプトだと思うのですが、何か他の 　ヒーラーと統一されてしまっていて学者の独特さが薄れてきてる感じが見えたりもしてます。 　こちらもミアズマが無くなりバイオ系は残っていますがミアズマバイオラ・ベイン拡散とか、 　あとシャドウフレアの継続ダメージ、学者の醍醐味が無くなってしまったのは残念です。 　　 　占星術師：このジョブは、何か無くなってどうこうは無いのですが。次のパッチ5.1での改変で 　少し、ん？と思うことがありました。「運命の輪」が大きく変わる点です。ノクターだと 　従来の感じのまま動けず継続回復、ダイアーだとダメージ軽減バリアで動けるという事だった 　と思いますが、これから触るという事なのでどうなるかわからないところですが唯一ダメージ 　軽減バリアをはって皆を守るという占星術師の醍醐味が無くなってしまうようでならない。...cut due to length constraits.

Originally Posted by Loki

There are tons of this kind of messages on JP forums since 5.0 but SE doesn't care apparently.

They might not care or they're just to embarrassed to say anything right now because they failed to reform healing to the expectations of the player-base and are working away at fixing this again.

Personally I think they just need to take the approach they took to tanking to make healing better again, give back the aoe DoT's for WHM and SCH and balance out between abilities that protect and buff and those that damage. WHM should have burst heals and damage as well as getting rid of fluid aura and replacing it with Water as an aoe target spell, SCH shields, miasma II back and a good aoe heal which it initially lacked and AST continous HoT's/Dot's with the cards buffing like before but make them aoe and each having a different effect that either buff's allies (Haste/Damage/Critical) and debuffs (Slow/Def down/atk down) , if they add a 4th healer like Geo it should be a blood healer that damages while employing magics that drain opponents health to heal those damaging them. that would give all 4 variety.

Originally Posted by Mimilu

In Yoshi-P and the team's defense, they've learned since 2.0 not to say anything that isn't set in stone because the playerbase takes whatever they said and either treats it like dogma and backlashes when it either doesn't happen or happen in the way they wanted or criticizes the hell out of it before anything is finalized (not to say it isn't warranted/needed at times).
IF they are planning major healer changes, they're going to keep quiet so they don't see any backlash.

While this is a valid point indeed, this is also one of the problem.
We barely get any responses at all. And when we somehow have some, they're out of touch and quickly passed.
During live letters, Tank and mostly DPS got some discussion around their rework and thoughts.
When in comes to healers, we get like, one sentence that comes from... i don't know where? I have some recent example.

- pre 5.0 : Sch let their co-healer WHM/AST do all the work while they dps, so we gave them more direct heal => excuse me what ? A lot of the healing output came from some of SCH greatest oGCD, how can they say that
- 5.15 Noct adjustment : Nocturnal AST struggle to heal so we ajusted some of its spells => Excuse me what ? While it's true nocturnal is not as fency as SCH (and this is a comparison that was pointed out about Noct.AST effiency), it was not to the point it was "hard" to heal with.

How can go in a go in a good direction between these no response and false response comparing to the real state of healer ?