Market Area Improvements discussion

[Altera]

I like this alot I dont like Uldah alot, I prefer Gridania and Limsa, so I will finally move to my GC City which is Gridania for good ^^

[Felis]

I just wonder if from this patch on, the market wards of LL and Grid will be as packed as the Ul'dah ones.

My problem is not a problem of being or not able to purchase things, is that I cannot sell them. This pushed me against playing a crafting job for now, but if will be able to set up my retainer no problem in any other city I'll be just as happy as if we finally got an AH.

Don't worry. If both Gridania and LL market should be full packed in the same time like Ul'dah now, Ul'dah market should be empty.

[Kiara]

Hi Sephrick and All,

Yay! Fantastic News!

It'll be SO good to be able to search all 3 Cities' Market Wards for Items, from each each city at your convenience.

This is a huge improvement over what we have now, and will at least allow some commerce to happen for players putting their retainers in Limsa or Gridania. (And all players who want to relax in Limsa or Gridania can stay there viably, since they can purchase whatever they need via these new Mercantile Houses).

[Griss]

Give the guy who thought of this a cookie and a back rub. Its a pretty damned ingenious work around for there current limitations.

[Kiara]

An improvement, to be sure, but it is still sad that the markets are still accessed separately. I think that's due to "server limitations", however.

Hi Raldo,

I think it's a *good* thing that there are 3 separate Search Queries (one for each City), as it allows Players to *see* the Top 60 (20 / 20 / 20) of each Item with our current limited Search Functionality.

Some people have mentioned this before, but one huge problem I see with the future 2.0 Unified Market Ward (where all Retainers are linked in *1* "area") is:

• How is Yoshida-san planning on granting more visibility for Players and their Items to be sold with *1* (much larger) Market Ward?

How do you prevent an RMT Corporation or Gil Seller (or just 1 Player) from dominating the Top 20 Search results in a query? For example, right now you can see certain items already dominated by:

Cobalt Ingots
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil


It just takes 1 RMT / Gil Seller / Player to dominate the Top 20 Search Results, pushing out anyone else from listing their items. (I know supposedly HQ Results might be separated out (thankfully) in 2.0.)

Can you imagine how crowded and bad it would be in 2.0 with many more players and just 1 Unified Market Ward?

I'd be curious to know what Yoshida-san is planning for these issues.

Especially for Market Dumping and subsequent Price Fixing practices, etc.

So for now, without any improvements / anti-monopoly safety measures, I'm fine with having 3 Market Wards (that we can search individually all in 1 place). At least we see 60 Results.

Hopefully we get some improvements to this area in 2.0 as well.

[Orophin]

It's definitely a start. I'm pretty sure current server limitations keep it from being able to search all cities via one NPC. The mildly annoying part will be having to check each city for pricing, but that's something I can deal with to ensure I'm not getting nailed with taxes all the time just because my retainers are selling in the only ward that there's an empty spot.

I think I'll set my retainers up in LL (my starting city and GC) after 1.22 and see how often things sell compared to how they did in Uldah.

[Sagagemini]

Nice!
My retainers in Gridania won't feel as lonely anymore.

[elreed]

Especially since the previous update already turned it into a general AH.

But now is official, we'll have an Auction House, no more crowded bazaars

[Skies]

This is a welcome change, not like I ever bother with buying stuff personally, though. (Also I am very sure that within the first three weeks we will have a general ward crash )

I just hope that it never really turns into a full AH where you have to actually bid, that is the worst possible thing for a buyer and, as a seller, I don't think i'd ever like to inflict that pain on the people who buy from me.

[Jinko]

Hi Raldo,

I think it's a *good* thing that there are 3 separate Search Queries (one for each City), as it allows Players to *see* the Top 60 (20 / 20 / 20) of each Item with our current limited Search Functionality.

Some people have mentioned this before, but one huge problem I see with the future 2.0 Unified Market Ward (where all Retainers are linked in *1* "area") is:

• How is Yoshida-san planning on granting more visibility for Players and their Items to be sold with *1* (much larger) Market Ward?

How do you prevent an RMT Corporation or Gil Seller (or just 1 Player) from dominating the Top 20 Search results in a query? For example, right now you can see certain items already dominated by:

Cobalt Ingots
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
abdtdd 199 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil
bfffoeva 200 gil


It just takes 1 RMT / Gil Seller / Player to dominate the Top 20 Search Results, pushing out anyone else from listing their items. (I know supposedly HQ Results might be separated out (thankfully) in 2.0.)

Can you imagine how crowded and bad it would be in 2.0 with many more players and just 1 Unified Market Ward?

I'd be curious to know what Yoshida-san is planning for these issues.

Especially for Market Dumping and subsequent Price Fixing practices, etc.

So for now, without any improvements / anti-monopoly safety measures, I'm fine with having 3 Market Wards (that we can search individually all in 1 place). At least we see 60 Results.

Hopefully we get some improvements to this area in 2.0 as well.

Thats pretty easy to solve, you just have one retainer have take up one space.

If the retainer has more than 99 of one item it will just display as 99> (or they could just display the actual amount such as 990)

So:-

Cobalt Ingots
abdtdd 199 gil x 99>
bfffoeva 200 gil x 99>
someoneelse 201 x 99>
Someoneelse 240 x 65
someoneelse 300 x 30
etc