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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    Is that darker than the General-Purpose Jet Black dye?
    While wearing the Spriggan Cap, any black seems grey!

    Update: the picture has a color test on the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    While wearing the Spriggan Cap, any black seems grey!

    Update: the picture has a color test on the left.
    added a color test to my reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    While wearing the Spriggan Cap, any black seems grey!
    to be fair the way the dyes present on a piece of armor are heavily influenced by that individual piece and even varies depending on the specific part that is dyed, so dyes have no true color, they just suggest a color
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    While wearing the Spriggan Cap, any black seems grey!

    Update: the picture has a color test on the left.
    Anish Kapoor would like to know your location.

    but seriously, i'd love a deeper, richer black dye than the one we get on some gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    Anish Kapoor would like to know your location.

    but seriously, i'd love a deeper, richer black dye than the one we get on some gear

    Oh my god no!, this guy already has the exclusive on the vantablack, don't let him take the spriggan black!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    While wearing the Spriggan Cap, any black seems grey!
    That would be because black is binary and not a true color. Multiple shades of black does not exist. Asking for Spriggan black is basically asking for another Jet black, which depending on what is being dyed, also isn't true black. The dark divinity gear set is one of the few sets that are truly black. That shizz is so black it absorbs light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Multiple shades of black does not exist.
    I see you did science in school, not art. Black is a colour when you are painting or using dye, to obtain it you need to mix all the three primaries. A little less of one of the three primaries gives a "shade of black" like onyx or licorice.

    As the request is for a dye... black will be a colour, and it can have shades.

    (artistically, bumpmap and specular on armour is going to make the purest black nigh on hard/impossible to be standard - it will work on some things, not others).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I see you did science in school, not art. Black is a colour when you are painting or using dye, to obtain it you need to mix all the three primaries. A little less of one of the three primaries gives a "shade of black" like onyx or licorice.

    As the request is for a dye... black will be a colour, and it can have shades.

    (artistically, bumpmap and specular on armour is going to make the purest black nigh on hard/impossible to be standard - it will work on some things, not others).
    Well yeah, I can actually use science. With science you learn that the color spectrum is far more vast than what the human eye is capable of perceiving, and color can exist where we normally would see nothing but black, but I digress. It was in art class that I was taught how black is used and how to create it, and it was in science that I learned that black is either devoid of color and light, or it completely absorbs both. In other words, if you can 'see' a shade of black, you're not seeing black at all. Black is what the eye interprets when there is no color, or no light to reflect it.

    So yeah, grey. Or is it gray? hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    So yeah, grey. Or is it gray? hmmm
    Outside of very specific contexts, it literally does not matter.
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    A little science by a noob (me):

    A color is what our brain tells us when it combines the amount of light our eyes receive through their blue, green, and red receptors.

    White, for example, does not exist. Our brain gives it to us as a combination of what it receives from receptors in our eyes. We "see" white because our brain invents it as a combination.

    Black is what our brain gives us as a combination when it receives nothing from the blue, green and red receptors in our eyes. The black spriggan is this one. Not a very limited amount of colors that make for a very dark color. A total absence of blue, green, red which makes our brain tell us: "ok, nothing to see!".

    In HTML, black corresponds to # 000000. No blue, no green, no red.

    An area dyed in spriggan black is an area that neither emits nor reflects back any light. No matter the fabric, wood, dyed metal, it is BLACK.

    Any reflection or shine effect could only be due to a varnish or any other surface treatment which would be applied over the black and which would interfere with the surrounding light before the black absorbs it. Not the dyed surface.

    Spriggan black
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