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  1. #21
    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Riamara Skye
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Just looked it up and while it looks like I was wrong about 1.0 being the source of the problem, the result is the same. The source of the limitations is due to the dev team making shortcuts to speed the development process and get ARR out the door since they were "revamping" and didn't have the luxury of the same development time that a full game would normally receive. The way that character data is coded is due to design decisions that can't easily be reversed and that is ultimately responsible for the limitations we have now.
    I don't see limitations. I have no issues with the character creator. You keep doing you though.
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  2. #22
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    I don't see limitations. I have no issues with the character creator. You keep doing you though.
    This OP of this thread already pointed out where some of the limitations are. Did you not read the OP or do you just feel like you have the need to leave unnecessary comments on threads? It's fine that you think there's enough options for yourself. I'm fine with the options I've chosen for myself too. That doesn't mean everyone else feels the same and they want more ways to customize and this thread is here to discuss options that they want. "I have no issues" isn't constructive and adds nothing to the conversation.

    All races only have 1 extra slider option, hyur and roegadyn get muscle sliders, elezen, viera, and lalafell get ear sliders, miqo'te, au ra, and hrothgar get tail sliders. This means that everyone who doesn't have big ears or tails can't customize their muscle tone.

    Men only have 2 facial hair options, 1 mustache and 1 chin hair option. These also use the "facial features" slot, which everyone only gets about 5 of. That plus a host of other reasons leads to a lot of identical-looking players, especially among the more popular races like miqo'te, au ra, and viera. It's even worse for au ra and to a slightly lesser extent, viera, who only really have 1 popular face and there's not enough options to differentiate yourself from others. In the end, you can either look like everyone else, or not be as satisfied with your choice but be different.

    The executive producer himself has admitted that the character creator is limited and has acknowledged its limitations as well as the desires that people wish for it. That doesn't mean I think that anything will be done about it though, based on the reasons I already stated. But saying you're fine with what little we have and that there are no limitations just feels blind and ignorant and even a little preachy. I don't know what you've been playing, but MMOs have had better character creation that this for a long time now.
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    Last edited by MikkoAkure; 12-03-2020 at 03:43 AM.

  3. #23
    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    This OP of this thread already pointed out where some of the limitations are. Did you not read the OP or do you just feel like you have the need to leave unnecessary comments on threads? It's fine that you think there's enough options for yourself. I'm fine with the options I've chosen for myself too. That doesn't mean everyone else feels the same and they want more ways to customize and this thread is here to discuss options that they want. "I have no issues" isn't constructive and adds nothing to the conversation.

    All races only have 1 extra slider option, hyur and roegadyn get muscle sliders, elezen, viera, and lalafell get ear sliders, miqo'te, au ra, and hrothgar get tail sliders. This means that everyone who doesn't have big ears or tails can't customize their muscle tone.

    Men only have 2 facial hair options, 1 mustache and 1 chin hair option. These also use the "facial features" slot, which everyone only gets about 5 of. That plus a host of other reasons leads to a lot of identical-looking players, especially among the more popular races like miqo'te, au ra, and viera. It's even worse for au ra and to a slightly lesser extent, au ra, who only really have 1 popular face and there's not enough options to differentiate yourself from others. In the end, you can either look like everyone else, or not be as satisfied with your choice but be different.

    The executive producer himself has admitted that the character creator is limited and has acknowledged its limitations as well as the desires that people wish for it. That doesn't mean I think that anything will be done about it though, based on the reasons I already stated. But saying you're fine with what little we have and that there are no limitations just feels blind and ignorant and even a little preachy. I don't know what you've been playing, but MMOs have had better character creation that this for a long time now.
    Whatever the OP posted is their perceived limitations. I think its fine. That is all that matters. I am not one with the herd. I do this crazy thing. I think for myself.
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  4. #24
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Eh?

    Which MMO are you referring to, exactly? Elder Scrolls Online and World of Warcraft are both doing fairly well for themselves. Both just happen to do some things related to character customisation a lot better than FFXIV does.

    For starters, ESO has facial and body sliders. It also has a lot of gear themed after each of the playable races and many of the non-playable ones. There's more expansive tattoo, scar and facial hair options - all of which have been frequently requested here in FFXIV to no response.

    WoW recently revamped its character creation for a second time in its lifespan and is set to add further options over time.

    FFXIV is well behind on that front and barely offers much new customisation outside of hairstyles - many of which are designed to be unisex in a way that makes them androgynous/feminine more often than not.

    Then, of course, there's the ridiculous situation with the missing genders for Hrothgar and Viera as well as the inability for them to wear most headgear in the game. Neither WoW or ESO struggles with that and each has beast races within.
    The problem with ESO is there is little to no variation in the actual look of your character. I'd actually argue FFXIV has more distinct variation.

    The reason there are so many accessory/tattoo options is so they have junk to pad out their lootboxes. However, I will grant you, even so, there are more options than here. Vastly more - even if you exclude the lootbox junk.
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  5. #25
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post

    I take personal offense to this. You can take my princess run from my cold, dead hands.
    that made me chuckle +1
    I'll admit, it's not TERRIBLE but having options for run animations or something of the sort doesn't hurt
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  6. #26
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Yes. Two more face options at least for each race to match the 6 that Hyur have. There are plenty of options we've seen in NPCs that aren't currently available (*cough*Aymeric*cough). And we know it's really just putting race locked features on other races so it's not going to overtax what's there. Just give us SOMETHING please. Ug.
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    Shisen Akaitama
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    Yes. Two more face options at least for each race to match the 6 that Hyur have.
    Wait Hyur get to have 6 faces??
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  8. #28
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    Luluna Eve
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I just wish that there where a few more faces for all races. I would like more option to make characters more curvier.

    Horns should be able to choose along with fangs for cats.

    I would also love more hairstyles maybe they should just let everyone share them all.

    Does anybody know if we will get new hair next patch? I can't remember if it is each patch cycle they add them.
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  9. #29
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    Biddy Batnana
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    Moogle
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    Quistis hair aswell
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    Wait Hyur get to have 6 faces??
    Yes. Midlander does, anyway. It's is the height of unfairness, especially considering there's usually an 'old' and sometimes a 'young' face and if you're not into either that ties your options even further for other races.
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