Request: Update/ Revamp Character creator

[Lihtleita]

midlanders have been hoarding face options for too long. every race should have equal options. Alsothemissinggenderswouldbenicedontshootme

[Packetdancer]

The option for half-elezen ears like Hilda’s would be nice for some variety. We know the Spoken races can interbreed, even if it’s frowned on culturally; you can justify the ability to mix in a few cross-racial traits for interesting results. Au Ra scale patterns on a femroe, the dual-ring Au Ra eyes on a miqo’te, Hilda’s ears on a midlander, whatever. Doesn’t need to be hugely obvious—the cross-racial one could be more subtle, again like Hilda’s ears—but I feel like it could add some visual variety to character designs.

[SavishSalacious]

No its fine the way it is. Lets leave things alone, specifically female only races.

[MikkoAkure]

I wouldn't say things are fine the way it is, this game has an ancient character creator compared to almost every other MMO out there. This is especially egregious for a pay-to-play MMO.

But the reality is that ARR was built on top of 1.0's terrible coding and Yoshi-P said that there are no plans for any sort of overhaul and our limited options are the result of how the game loads characters into the world. If the amount of options increased, then they would need to turn down the amount of players you can see on the screen. If you notice, the races that get muscle sliders are also the ones that have no ear or tail sliders. The devs seem to only have a set amount of values to work with per race and what we see is what we've got.

You can't blame PS4 either, since right now the game is being held back by minimum PC requirements. If they were to do another update like they did for Stormblood and remove PS4 support, all the PS4 players who didn't upgrade and those who play on potato PCs won't be able to play (and more importantly to SE) pay their monthly subs.

One thing I do wish they would do that I believe could be within the confines of what is possible, is to fix the elezen race's proportions. Make the heads normal size compared to their bodies, slim the shoulders down a bit. Viera are very similar to elezen, but with better proportions and it seems like elezen have all but disappeared from the playerbase since.

Hopefully the next FF MMO will be helmed by Yoshi-P and SE will allow him to do everything he wants to and we'll have an updated engine, no more spaghetti code, and a more robust CC. But I don't see anything happening until then. Considering how long people have been asking for Derplander's beard and nothing coming from it, it shows doesn't look like they have any intention of doing anything. And that is something that is already coded into the game.

Updated Femroe, Female midlander & Elezen jog animations, it's currently very stiff & needs revision or just allow the races to pick their run style

I take personal offense to this. You can take my princess run from my cold, dead hands.

[Reap00]

I wouldn't say things are fine the way it is, this game has an ancient character creator compared to almost every other MMO out there. This is especially egregious for a pay-to-play MMO.

But the reality is that ARR was built on top of 1.0's terrible coding and Yoshi-P said that there are no plans for any sort of overhaul and our limited options are the result of how the game loads characters into the world. If the amount of options increased, then they would need to turn down the amount of players you can see on the screen. If you notice, the races that get muscle sliders are also the ones that have no ear or tail sliders. The devs seem to only have a set amount of values to work with per race and what we see is what we've got.

You can't blame PS4 either, since right now the game is being held back by minimum PC requirements. If they were to do another update like they did for Stormblood and remove PS4 support, all the PS4 players who didn't upgrade and those who play on potato PCs won't be able to play (and more importantly to SE) pay their monthly subs.

One thing I do wish they would do that I believe could be within the confines of what is possible, is to fix the elezen race's proportions. Make the heads normal size compared to their bodies, slim the shoulders down a bit. Viera are very similar to elezen, but with better proportions and it seems like elezen have all but disappeared from the playerbase since.

Hopefully the next FF MMO will be helmed by Yoshi-P and SE will allow him to do everything he wants to and we'll have an updated engine, no more spaghetti code, and a more robust CC. But I don't see anything happening until then. Considering how long people have been asking for Derplander's beard and nothing coming from it, it shows doesn't look like they have any intention of doing anything. And that is something that is already coded into the game.



I take personal offense to this. You can take my princess run from my cold, dead hands.

Stop spreading this nonsense. ARR was rewritten using assets from 1.0. IT WAS REWRITTEN! THE CODE WAS NOT THE SAME! The character creator is absolutely fine. The only mmo this game competes with doesn't come close in this category or any other for that matter.

[Theodric]

Stop spreading this nonsense. ARR was rewritten using assets from 1.0. IT WAS REWRITTEN! THE CODE WAS NOT THE SAME! The character creator is absolutely fine. The only mmo this game competes with doesn't come close in this category or any other for that matter.

Eh?

Which MMO are you referring to, exactly? Elder Scrolls Online and World of Warcraft are both doing fairly well for themselves. Both just happen to do some things related to character customisation a lot better than FFXIV does.

For starters, ESO has facial and body sliders. It also has a lot of gear themed after each of the playable races and many of the non-playable ones. There's more expansive tattoo, scar and facial hair options - all of which have been frequently requested here in FFXIV to no response.

WoW recently revamped its character creation for a second time in its lifespan and is set to add further options over time.

FFXIV is well behind on that front and barely offers much new customisation outside of hairstyles - many of which are designed to be unisex in a way that makes them androgynous/feminine more often than not.

Then, of course, there's the ridiculous situation with the missing genders for Hrothgar and Viera as well as the inability for them to wear most headgear in the game. Neither WoW or ESO struggles with that and each has beast races within.

[Lauront]

The only mmo this game competes with doesn't come close in this category or any other for that matter.

If that were true, it'd be more so indicative of a genre forgotten by time than testament to anything this game does well. It's growing dated and the limitations of the current engine, for requests which would be minor for other games (like adding derplander stubble), are a constant reminder of that.

They made some really regrettable decisions in some regards, even with ARR - e.g. not creating high res versions of the assets and downscaling them (which is what people thought they had done), so for them to rectify that would apparently come at a significant labour cost.

[MikkoAkure]

Stop spreading this nonsense. ARR was rewritten using assets from 1.0. IT WAS REWRITTEN! THE CODE WAS NOT THE SAME! The character creator is absolutely fine. The only mmo this game competes with doesn't come close in this category or any other for that matter.

Just looked it up and while it looks like I was wrong about 1.0 being the source of the problem, the result is the same. The source of the limitations is due to the dev team making shortcuts to speed the development process and get ARR out the door since they were "revamping" and didn't have the luxury of the same development time that a full game would normally receive. The way that character data is coded is due to design decisions that can't easily be reversed and that is ultimately responsible for the limitations we have now.

[rance-sama]

We need tattoos. Badly.
With the Scion tattoos being Mogstation items Squeenix would make some mad cash.

[Reap00]

Eh?

Which MMO are you referring to, exactly? Elder Scrolls Online and World of Warcraft are both doing fairly well for themselves. Both just happen to do some things related to character customisation a lot better than FFXIV does.

For starters, ESO has facial and body sliders. It also has a lot of gear themed after each of the playable races and many of the non-playable ones. There's more expansive tattoo, scar and facial hair options - all of which have been frequently requested here in FFXIV to no response.

WoW recently revamped its character creation for a second time in its lifespan and is set to add further options over time.

FFXIV is well behind on that front and barely offers much new customisation outside of hairstyles - many of which are designed to be unisex in a way that makes them androgynous/feminine more often than not.

Then, of course, there's the ridiculous situation with the missing genders for Hrothgar and Viera as well as the inability for them to wear most headgear in the game. Neither WoW or ESO struggles with that and each has beast races within.

ESO characters look hideous. I don't care how many sliders are available. WoW is horrible in every way imaginable. I resubbed to give it a go recently to see if the game got better since Cataclysm. It has been all down hill for that game. The heart and soul of that game left with its founders. I don't care if either game stuggles. FFXIV trumps them in every way. That is the bottom line.