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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    Nothing much. Lochs have Skalla, which was another city-state in the 5th Astral Era, but not something on the level of Nym, Mhach or Amdapor
    Considering these towers looks very Mhachi, there might be a hint. We'll see if there is more towers close to other old city-states.

    There's a lot void in this trailer: Potentially these tower, the dragon looks very voidsentish, we're fighting again the Cloud of Darkness in the raid, the new role quest may involve Unukalhai who's from the Thirteen...

    What if the Mhachi had an ultimate plan to surge the void in our realm that were never used due to calamity? So, in order to prevent this, we'll had to use the technology of the only other civilisation that mastered the void: Allag?

    Another interesting theory concerning Eden suggest that Gaïa could be...
    ...an ascian, possibly Mitron.



    On this enlargement, we can see two uncovered acians, the right one seeming to have long black hair...
    We can see the characteristic image shaking of an echo vision during this scene, so it's obviously in the past. Could the other ascian be Pashtarot, the only blond acian that we saw or quite simply Loghrif, Mitron's associate in the First? An other possibility could be Lahabrea, the other blond acian even if we can find him without his hood only on the web, that could explain his presence on the artwork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdrN View Post
    Considering these towers looks very Mhachi, there might be a hint. We'll see if there is more towers close to other old city-states.

    There's a lot void in this trailer: Potentially these tower, the dragon looks very voidsentish, we're fighting again the Cloud of Darkness in the raid, the new role quest may involve Unukalhai who's from the Thirteen...

    What if the Mhachi had an ultimate plan to surge the void in our realm that were never used due to calamity? So, in order to prevent this, we'll had to use the technology of the only other civilisation that mastered the void: Allag?[/HB]
    I don't feel like the void has anything to do with the MSQ shenanigans considering that the dragon was referred to as a primal in the German version of the trailer.

    The towers look to me as though they're siphoning aether down from somewhere up above...and the moon happens to be the closest celestial body available. Seeing as black magic fundamentally draws aether out of the environment as opposed to the caster, I'd think the Mhachi likely would've experimented with finding ways to give them access to more aether for their spells.

    My guess is Fandaniel intends to use what bits of Zodiark's aether he can draw out without breaking the seal to create a weaker, but still horrifyingly powerful incarnation of the primal. Considering that Bahamut didn't even need to come into close contact with Cid's father to temper him, it's possible something similar is going to happen here and simply drawing Zodiark's aether down to Hydaelyn could potentially temper enough thralls (Unassuming beast tribes likely being the prime targets) to allow a physical form to manifest and start going on a rampage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I don't feel like the void has anything to do with the MSQ shenanigans considering that the dragon was referred to as a primal in the German version of the trailer.

    The towers look to me as though they're siphoning aether down from somewhere up above...and the moon happens to be the closest celestial body available. Seeing as black magic fundamentally draws aether out of the environment as opposed to the caster, I'd think the Mhachi likely would've experimented with finding ways to give them access to more aether for their spells.

    My guess is Fandaniel intends to use what bits of Zodiark's aether he can draw out without breaking the seal to create a weaker, but still horrifyingly powerful incarnation of the primal. Considering that Bahamut didn't even need to come into close contact with Cid's father to temper him, it's possible something similar is going to happen here and simply drawing Zodiark's aether down to Hydaelyn could potentially temper enough thralls (Unassuming beast tribes likely being the prime targets) to allow a physical form to manifest and start going on a rampage.
    That's more or less what I'm assuming he's doing as well. Delivering on his promise to Zenos, even if this isn't Zodiark at his apogee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I don't feel like the void has anything to do with the MSQ shenanigans considering that the dragon was referred to as a primal in the German version of the trailer.

    The towers look to me as though they're siphoning aether down from somewhere up above...and the moon happens to be the closest celestial body available. Seeing as black magic fundamentally draws aether out of the environment as opposed to the caster, I'd think the Mhachi likely would've experimented with finding ways to give them access to more aether for their spells.

    My guess is Fandaniel intends to use what bits of Zodiark's aether he can draw out without breaking the seal to create a weaker, but still horrifyingly powerful incarnation of the primal. Considering that Bahamut didn't even need to come into close contact with Cid's father to temper him, it's possible something similar is going to happen here and simply drawing Zodiark's aether down to Hydaelyn could potentially temper enough thralls (Unassuming beast tribes likely being the prime targets) to allow a physical form to manifest and start going on a rampage.
    I don't think they're pulling anything inward as you see aether being pushed away from the towers. So if anything they're pulling something from the ground. As you tend to not indicate things going inward with an outward pulsing.
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    Whatever happens, I hope that Gaius and his chaperones get some new clothes. I am tired of them wearing hobo clothes.
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    So on Eden....

    We've finished restoring the elements, what plot threads are still hanging?
    Gaia's memories.
    Gaia's "faerie".

    How could Eden be involved in that?
    Eden was used to create primals by reading WoL's memories and giving them form.
    Gaia's faerie wants her to remember something she's forgotten.

    I think that makes it pretty obvious that CoD and this Scylla/Cerberus/Warg thing have been created from Gaia's suppressed memories that somehow involve the 13th/Void and somehow 'unleashed' upon the world.
    The scene with the various crystals surrounding them with images of the current Eden primals could be someway of manifesting memories that goes wrong, or gets hijacked by her faerie.

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    Garlemald/Garleans were never the true antagonists or supposed to be that, if you think about it. Only puppets/tools for the real antagonists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Garlemald/Garleans were never the true antagonists or supposed to be that, if you think about it. Only puppets/tools for the real antagonists.
    True and yet they are in every expansion. I have more sympathy for the Ascians at this point. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    True and yet they are in every expansion. I have more sympathy for the Ascians at this point. lol
    They are in every expansion because so far the Ascians are still around-ish and in need of their tools. After all, Emet did quite a number of turning Garlemald into a perfect little toolbox.
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    Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but -

    "I'm different, you see. From the Ancients who clung to dear life... and from you." From this line it sounds like Fandaniel is already aware the PC is an incomplete reincarnation of Azem.

    The Void tower things appear to be transmitting a signal of some kind.
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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