Elemental Wheel, What's the point?

[Jinko]

I agree I see no reason for elemental affinity on regular monsters. +1

Give them magic resistance by all means, but just make it one element unless its something like a Flan or Primal.

[GinTama]

if there is no elemental wheel, there would be no need for elemental spells .... and wtf guys this is final fantasy ....
there has always been elemental affinity on mosters. and who says blm will have no further spells?

removing elemental wheel is like removing crystals ... itsn ot gonna happen and its not gonna be good without, better try to improve it than removing it

[Jinko]

if there is no elemental wheel, there would be no need for elemental spells .... and wtf guys this is final fantasy ....
there has always been elemental affinity on mosters. and who says blm will have no further spells?

removing elemental wheel is like removing crystals ... itsn ot gonna happen and its not gonna be good without, better try to improve it than removing it

Did yo not read his post ?

He said remove elemental attunement for standard monsters, keep it for elemental creatures such as Bombs, Elementals, Flans and Primals.

Does this not make sense to you ?

After all are any of us as adventurers naturally resistant to one school of magic ? (I'll think you'll find no)

Why is a Marmot strong against earth for example ?

[Firon]

Did yo not read his post ?

He said remove elemental attunement for standard monsters, keep it for elemental creatures such as Bombs, Elementals, Flans and Primals.

Does this not make sense to you ?

After all are any of us as adventurers naturally resistant to one school of magic ? (I'll think you'll find no)

Why is a Marmot strong against earth for example ?

I'm expecting some retard answer like cuz it walks on dirt.

[GinTama]

Did yo not read his post ?

He said remove elemental attunement for standard monsters, keep it for elemental creatures such as Bombs, Elementals, Flans and Primals.

Does this not make sense to you ?

After all are any of us as adventurers naturally resistant to one school of magic ? (I'll think you'll find no)

Why is a Marmot strong against earth for example ?

ive read it yes, but seems like you didnt read the rest of the thread.

and why the hell should "normal" monsters have no element?? just coz its not obvious?? use your imagination damn it.
Those are monsters not animals, so of course they can have an element. A Marmot is strong against earth coz they eat dirt ... or what ever ...


and no it does not make sense to me.

we are not naturally resistant, but there was a time where we could put the points where we wanted

[Jinko]

Those are monsters not animals, so of course they can have an element. A Marmot is strong against earth coz they eat dirt ... or what ever ...

A Marmot is a monster ? /holds hand to mouth and giggles.

and no it does not make sense to me.

we are not naturally resistant, but there was a time where we could put the points where we wanted

And not any longer, nor do we current have the use of water spells.

We are actually naturally resistant to all spells now, check your elemental resistance in Attributes.

@ Felis, yea Flans are such an example where monsters are healed by spells and attacks of their attuned element.

Of course it took me a while to realise why I was doing such little damage on a Marmot as a MNK with Fists of Earth. (I agree that if the mob had been healed I would have noticed much faster) so you do have a good point.

[Raistlin]

black mages limited to not all elemental spells has nosense.

First, why BLM have to have the same number of spells than a melee skills? that is totally wrong..

[Alhanelem]

black mages limited to not all elemental spells has nosense.

First, why BLM have to have the same number of spells than a melee skills? that is totally wrong..

It's not nonsense. They've only used fire ice and thunder in nearly every FF game except 11.

[Momita]

Delete Elemental Wheel? No Thanks,
Change it? Yes, Please... Earth > Lightning > Water > Fire > Ice > Wind

\o/

[Atoli]

The elemental wheel is pretty messed up right now and should be changed, yes.
Removed? That's a dumb idea.
Monsters are resistant to ONE element, every magicbased class is able to use at least TWO elements though.
So let's say the monster is resistant to earth.
As a CNJ, I can just use wind on it.
As a PUG, I can just use fire on it.
And if it is resistant to fire, it won't be resistant to earth so I can use earth instead.
As a THM, I can just use ice or thunder on it.
Where is the problem?o.O