Light Party Restriction In Frontlines

[IllidanFang]

As someone who was there for 100 consecutive freelancing losses during Nadaam's first week... no. Good riddance to it. A mere 4 people can do insane amount of work if they're kept healed enough, a full team coordinating around known map exploits and what-not? No thanks.

A lot of the PvP's quality comes down to the players, and more importantly how they approach the match. Team stacking inevitably just results in some of the most boring matches around, with one team stomping around anything in sight, and then the one team not getting stomped as much coming after the one that's been fighting non-stop with nothing to show for it. While that still exists, it'd be far worse on fully stacked frontlines.

If you're on the receiving end of this kind of behavior a lot, you lose all interest in even fighting. Before they ditched the old system, it was common for some teams to literally just idle waiting for their inevitable ganking. Which is heartbreaking, because everyone that did try ultimately didn't matter at all.

WHAT THE we ALL were there during the adder bandwagon. that has NOTHING to do with premades. that was a bunch of people who wanted carries and easy wins for the mount so they could stop queueing up. premades dont stomp everything in sight especially if other players idunno... fight back? you give me the impression you just hang back and afk. staying idle waiting to die? nah GET IN THERE. LEARN HOW TO STOP these premades.

and the only "exploit" these bois doing is actually using their maps. crazy i know.

[Novani]

What exactly are these map exploits you're referring to? I've played PvP since Heavensward and I've never encountered or heard of such things.

What map exploits exactly? Because for as long as i've been playing pvp i have never seen whatever it is you're talking about. Also, all this fear about full premades just 100% stomping or dominating is so false

Alright, exploit was an extreme term to use for it, apologies about that; tired brain goes for the first word. As far as it does go, is mainly to do with how weirdly some Z levels interact near some nodes (Seal Rock and Nadaam specifically) that can be difficult for the attacked team to respond to. If it happened once I'd blame server tick, but well, can only go by what was experienced on a few occasions prior to the change. Edit: For clarification, I meant around under the edge of center left node and southeast cliff node in the respective maps). This was experienced under an old unstable ADsL connection though. For all I know, it might've been complete coincidence.

Not ruling out being wrong, but can only go by what was experienced over the course of several matches against the same premade. This isn't the rule for premades sure, nothing in life is ever so clear cut. But I sincerely doubt it'd go anywhere good.
After all PvP, and Frontline in particular is always a mixed bag. And there's still plenty of ways to be social; just in this stuff, the worst comes out first.

Apologies also for the late reply.

WHAT THE we ALL were there during the adder bandwagon. that has NOTHING to do with premades. that was a bunch of people who wanted carries and easy wins for the mount so they could stop queueing up. premades dont stomp everything in sight especially if other players idunno... fight back? you give me the impression you just hang back and afk. staying idle waiting to die? nah GET IN THERE. LEARN HOW TO STOP these premades.

and the only "exploit" these bois doing is actually using their maps. crazy i know.

Gee, what a novel concept.

I love these knee jerk reactions. It's like having a differing opinion's the equal to saying the most vile thing in existence. Makes things ever so civil.

For the record: I do not sit idle, if anything I'm aggressive in a fight and always moving to and from objectives. A few times I questioned teams that sat passively, you know what the response (when there was one) I got was when I dared to question the wisdom? It wasn't civil let me tell you that.

Far as I see it, there's no point in PvPing if well, you don't go and give it your best shot, and work as a team if you can. If you win, great. If you lose, well there's always next time. Personally, it's more about the quality of the match, which comes largely from the players. I don't see premade dominated matches encouraging anyone to having a go. But that's just my two cents, not like my opinion matters. >.>

[Rinku421]

Alright, exploit was an extreme term to use for it, apologies about that; tired brain goes for the first word. As far as it does go, is mainly to do with how weirdly some Z levels interact near some nodes (Seal Rock and Nadaam specifically) that can be difficult for the attacked team to respond to. If it happened once I'd blame server tick, but well, can only go by what was experienced on a few occasions prior to the change. Edit: For clarification, I meant around under the edge of center left node and southeast cliff node in the respective maps). This was experienced under an old unstable ADsL connection though. For all I know, it might've been complete coincidence.

Not ruling out being wrong, but can only go by what was experienced over the course of several matches against the same premade. This isn't the rule for premades sure, nothing in life is ever so clear cut.

Node spawns are completely random and RNG based. As someone who's played Frontlines for almost 3 years I can tell you a premade being present does not factor into the equation at all.