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  1. #11
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    Wyakin's Avatar
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    Wyakin Cade
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 71
    As much as the OP is a constant troll he’s kinda right. Diadem.. fate farming. Eureka... fate farming. Bojza... fate farming. I’m sorry but that’s not fun content and was dead and boring in 2.0. Levelling classes in northern thanalan, it’s been done to death now
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  2. #12
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I hope it's not so dead that I won't be able to do it. Players being blocked from progressing through the storyline because there's not enough participants for some instance would be a major issue.
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  3. #13
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    I hope it's not so dead that I won't be able to do it. Players being blocked from progressing through the storyline because there's not enough participants for some instance would be a major issue.
    That's exactly what's going on right now. I still don't understand why Square still thinks garbage content like this is a good idea. Why would anyone think grindy content with a death penalty is a good idea especially in 2020.

    This garbage might've worked in the past, but it'll certainly not work these days.
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  4. #14
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    Grimnir Greywolfe
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Deep dungeons are trash. Bozja is far more fun, in my opinion.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    That's exactly what's going on right now. I still don't understand why Square still thinks garbage content like this is a good idea. Why would anyone think grindy content with a death penalty is a good idea especially in 2020.

    This garbage might've worked in the past, but it'll certainly not work these days.
    Some people like it. There's an entire game based on pretty much that exact concept. In an MMORPG it's not a requirement that all players like all the content. But if the players who want to do the content can't successfully do so due to too low participation that's a problem.
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  6. #16
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    Arillyn Lovesong
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    That's exactly what's going on right now. I still don't understand why Square still thinks garbage content like this is a good idea. Why would anyone think grindy content with a death penalty is a good idea especially in 2020.

    This garbage might've worked in the past, but it'll certainly not work these days.
    Because they based it off Eureka which was based off how things were done in FFXI which they did because people asked for that type of thing in this game - so they gave people what they asked for in side content.
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  7. #17
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    Puremallace's Avatar
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    Pure Mallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Main issue I am seeing is after the story quest the place is seriously pointless. You lose a STUPID amount of mettle, the raid experience is based around raids I would see organized in WoW to organize it correctly and the rewards are straight up trash for the amount of time in there.

    My main issue is losing such a severe amount of mettle makes me never want to tank it. It is fun to run the one with other people and the critical engagements are fun but Castrum just seems pointless for the time investment.

    Even the gear the zone offers is 5 ilvls lowers then the current 500 ilvl and you are capped at 430 ilvl anyways so seriously what is the point in rushing grinding 1,500!!! coins to upgrade the gear.
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    Last edited by Puremallace; 11-24-2020 at 10:03 AM.

  8. #18
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    Zelahra Virasch
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    In an MMORPG it's not a requirement that all players like all the content.
    I'm not that guy, but personally, I don't expect to like literally everything. Crafting will probably never be my thing so I just don't do it.

    But it is definitely annoying when they draw resources away from stuff I do like in order to make something I don't.

    Like, I get that a lot of people find dungeons boring. That's good feedback. And it's fair, they're long hallways full of trash with bosses every 2-3 pulls, their dungeon design leaves a bit to be desired even though I do think they're fun.

    So their response is to... cut back on the number of dungeons being made instead of trying to fix their dungeon design?

    Meanwhile Diadem is the most poorly received content they've made since the re-launch of the game, but that's the thing they keep trying to make work.

    I just don't get it. I feel like there'd be more interest in better designed, more challenging dungeons than in making yet another version of Diadem.
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  9. #19
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Why would anyone think grindy content with a death penalty is a good idea especially in 2020.
    Apparently you think this is good idea. Deep Dungeons are grindy content with a death penalty. Grinding for gear upgrades, grinding for health potions, losing hours of progress when you die...
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  10. #20
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    Kira Ayakima
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    Siren
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HardcoreRaider View Post
    Bozja is evidence that FF14 is in decline. The playerbase, the amount of content and the quality thereof are all in decline.
    You do realize that bozja is not the only content of ffxiv?
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