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    SavishSalacious's Avatar
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    Alex Mathethious
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    Malboro
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    Black Mage Lv 90

    Woah ... Slow down a bit ...

    So I rolled a new character on a new world to experience the story again and make some gil, because I am poor and I wanted to see how much 4 (incl. base) expansions worth of MSQ will give me in gil minus some small things like repairs and the odd teleport.

    I am at level 18 in the MSQ, I am level 32.

    SLOW THE ^&*( DOWN

    So I have done NOTHING accept MSQ and class quests - which as I am going to be a summoner - I cannot unlock my job stone quests till the girdanian quest with the fairies. I am done my class quests and I am this level 32 arcanist running around doing MSQ and the odd unlock quest and getting not only "preferred server" reward (and - I think???) the "road to 70" boost.

    Christ. The XP was not like this in my day. I don't mind it but I can understand how a new player could get to 50 long before the MSQ catches up with them.

    This might lead to the "why are running around with out a job stone" - they probably haven't gotten that far or are legit stupid.

    My only real complaint is the following:

    You give me boat loads of XP but very little if any gil for the MSQ quests.

    I am not asking for wow level of gil here (5 mil in 3 quests). But ya know maybe a 1k or 500-1k? Gil means nothing anyways with the markets overrun by bots and undercutting. There is no economy. So why not be a smidge more generous?

    Also level 32 and you wont let me do my summoner job stone because of MSQ. The actual %^&* wrong with you? LOL. I am that player - above level 30 and no job stone.
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SavishSalacious View Post
    SLOW THE ^&*( DOWN
    I agree.

    I bought an MMO newbie into the game, and was hoping to level moderately slowly so that I could teach them what it was about. Before we could blink it's the end of HW and we are doing alliances and places like the Vault before they even know the difference between an AOE and DOT.

    Levelling is way. way, way, way too fast for a new player, even if we skip everything but MSQ. And by the middle of ARR even that leaves us 10 to 20 levels over.

    It would be nice if SE had a way we could level very slowly, or even pause and bank XP until we were ready to accept a level and move on.

    Maybe it's the time - for those who want it - to end XP based levels and move to quest given levels instead?
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I agree.

    I bought an MMO newbie into the game, and was hoping to level moderately slowly so that I could teach them what it was about. Before we could blink it's the end of HW and we are doing alliances and places like the Vault before they even know the difference between an AOE and DOT.

    Levelling is way. way, way, way too fast for a new player, even if we skip everyhting but MSQ. And by the middle of ARR even that leaves is 10 to 20 levels over.

    It would be nice if SE had a way we could level very slowly, or even pause and bank XP until we were ready to accept a level and move on.

    Maybe it's the time - for those who want it - to end XP based levels and move to quest given levels instead?
    I think SE expects new players to level up other Jobs and try things up. That's why they give you so much exp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    I think SE expects new players to level up other Jobs and try things up. That's why they give you so much exp.
    It's not at all ideal for an MMO virgin. Allowing pausing/banking that XP for other jobs and proceeding at a slow pace so they can pick up what a rotation is, how to behave in dungeons, and even how to dodge agro in the open world by moving behind monsters makes more sense.

    We are around Moghome and they only just now understand to ride behind the monster, and not to stop if they accidentally trigger agro. But they are not skilled enough to do dungeons, not by a long shot. To me, they should still be back around Brayflox.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 11-14-2020 at 03:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    It's not at all ideal for an MMO virgin. Allowing pausing/banking that XP for other jobs and proceeding at a slow pace so they can pick up what a rotation is, how to behave in dungeons, and even how to dodge agro in the open world by moving behind monsters makes more sense.

    We are around Moghome and they only just now understand to ride behind the monster, and not to stop.
    When you switch classes you are going back to level 1 so you get more experience re-doing those open world things while you level up again. You may not get rotation experience on your first original class but at the same time, quests and fates require you to fight so many monsters you essentially have them ingrained into you.
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    damn this is like the 13th alt
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    Ranko Kurosuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanCody View Post
    damn this is like the 13th alt
    That guy is getting nervous that his other alts are getting reported so he made another one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rance-sama View Post
    That guy is getting nervous that his other alts are getting reported so he made another one.
    Are you on drugs? Look at my post history.
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    Clover Blake
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Leveling doesn't grant you to reach endgame faster, or even to access high level dungeons that require more skill. That's always locked behind the MSQ, and the MSQ is quite long.

    Maybe they made leveling faster because many people complain that combat is so slow at first. The faster you reach the fun part of combat, the better? Also, we'll no longer have the problem of being locked out of the MSQ due to insufficient level. As a ravid alt maker, I for one appreciate this.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Maybe they made leveling faster because many people complain that combat is so slow at first. The faster you reach the fun part of combat, the better? Also, we'll no longer have the problem of being locked out of the MSQ due to insufficient level. As a ravid alt maker, I for one appreciate this.
    The problem with that is that the game's level sync for content runs counter to that idea. What's the point of leveling so fast if you're lacking behind in the MSQ and get forced into low level dungeons that disable all the interesting abilities anyway?
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