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    Straight Swords for Samurai?

    ... or rather, more of them? Can't say I have a convincing argument ready for why they should, so I'll just say it's something I'd personally like if they did! Chinese Jian are one possibility (Seiryu uses one), as are European longswords! To my understanding, there's quite a bit of overlap between Katana and Longsword techniques, since they occupied a similar niche and all. I tried to express as much in the recent Weapon Design Contest by submitting some myself, we'll see how that pans out!

    I know the job is called Samurai, which conjures up a specific aesthetic, but this is also a sci-fantasy game where swords and magic exist alongside mechas and Star Wars-looking gunships we're talking about. Our character is an adventurer who never stays put for long, so I don't think it feels out of character for them to choose more... unorthodox weaponry, right? They're no longer beholden to any teacher at this point either, having basically outperformed them all. And, at the end of the day, I think we can all agree the odds of them adding another sword DPS are slim to none at this point, so I feel like this isn't too much to ask? They're certainly not shy when it comes to giving others Katana-looking weapons, after all...

    All that said, they had the perfect opportunity with Shadowbringers to slip us one or three more unconventional weapons and it either never occurred to them or did, and they chose not to (as the Crystarium Samurai Blade seems to suggest)?
    But, hear me out... the First is a parallel world with its own history, and we spend a lot of time in areas such as Lakeland and Voeburt that were shown to have been more traditionally fantasy, with kingdoms and princesses and knights etc. so it's not inconceivable they could've developed and used (two-handed) longswords, as a knightly weapon that maybe never took off on the Source? The First's equivalent of the East is also long gone, so aside from a stray antique or two it kind of made no sense that there would be "katanas" dropping as loot... It's a shame they let the opportunity pass them by, but!


    I've noticed they've started referring to SAM weapons as "Samurai Blades" or simply "Blades", which gives me hope that these less specific terms are going to be reflected in the sorts of weapon designs we get, also!
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    Last edited by Tsiron; 11-08-2021 at 05:41 AM.

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    The Tsukuyomi Katana is straight. Not aware of any others.
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    There are a few that look more cutlass like, and one of the Eden raid ones in particular is absolutely more western looking in style. They're not common, and they're not typical "longsword" style, but they do exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    The Tsukuyomi Katana is straight. Not aware of any others.
    Yeah, there's... 3? at least. The rest also curve to varying degrees but overall it's very samey imo. It's a complaint I have with katanas in games in general, there's barely any variation

    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    There are a few that look more cutlass like, and one of the Eden raid ones in particular is absolutely more western looking in style. They're not common, and they're not typical "longsword" style, but they do exist.
    I'm not in ShB content yet, but I assume you're talking about this one? Very European-looking for sure!
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    Last edited by Tsiron; 11-12-2020 at 09:19 PM.

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    Samurai use katanas, katanas have a more-or-less-fixed shape, the game is made in Japan.

    Go figure the math.

    Want a straight blade, become a Paladin.
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    The UCOB weapon is pretty straight, and also happens to be the best SAM weapon. Go for that.
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    Dark Knights have 2 or three odachi/oversized katana, so your request is fair. You should also get Tsukuyomi's Chokuto, the 2nd straightest weapon Samurai have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Samurai use katanas, katanas have a more-or-less-fixed shape, the game is made in Japan.

    Go figure the math.

    Want a straight blade, become a Paladin.
    You're fun.
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    I've seen other players pull off the Katana of Althyk



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    There's a recurring design that you can get from Gubal Library at the earliest:
    Kagehide
    Ghost Barque Katana
    Deepgold Blade
    Flame Captain's Samurai Blade
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