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    Reveriekun's Avatar
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    Reverie Shirokami
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    Retainer system just...there isn't space

    After the merge it's impossible for me and a lot of player to find a spot in the market area where to place the retainers, it's been a weak since the last time i found a spot, and I can't sell anything because of this problem. You have created a search system and implemented the possibility to buy trough this system. So why you keep the retainer system up? It's not possible to add some spot for the retainer, or delete this system and use a simple system like the Audition House?
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    Wolfie Wu
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    Audition House heh.

    There's three solutions to this:

    1. Place an item for max gil on your retainer once you get a spot, so it never gets kicked out.
    2. Move your retainer to Limsa or Gridania and take a huge penalty on how many customers you have.
    3. Shout about your wares.

    The MW system will likely not see any huge improvement until 2.0 is out with the auction house. It makes little sense now with the new version being only about half a year away.
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    Fear Vivi
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    Ragnarok
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    Took me about 4 days to find spots for both my retainers, my wife still hasn't managed to find any spots though.

    I just hope 2.0 uses an Auction House and not Market wards >.<
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    Khazar Karnak
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    I dont know why its difficult for S-E to implement the link of all 3 markets in the current version. Markets are all instanced it shouldn't be too difficult you can access the market instances of every city. Ok, do not let us to move a ward of other different city because it would be used for free teleports, but let us to buy from the market search in other city markets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazar View Post
    I dont know why its difficult for S-E to implement the link of all 3 markets in the current version. Markets are all instanced it shouldn't be too difficult you can access the market instances of every city. Ok, do not let us to move a ward of other different city because it would be used for free teleports, but let us to buy from the market search in other city markets.
    It's difficult because Tanaka's team basically f**ked around for 4 years with tech demos, and then tried to make a game on the 5th year out of an incomplete engine and skeletal game design plan.
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    Fear Vivi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazar View Post
    I dont know why its difficult for S-E to implement the link of all 3 markets in the current version. Markets are all instanced it shouldn't be too difficult you can access the market instances of every city. Ok, do not let us to move a ward of other different city because it would be used for free teleports, but let us to buy from the market search in other city markets.

    The servers can barely handle what retainers are in the wards now, if you merge all 3 barely anyone will be able to store there retainers in them and they would crash constantly.

    I think a nice temp. measure would be to allow only 1 retainer per character into the market wards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazar View Post
    I dont know why its difficult for S-E to implement the link of all 3 markets in the current version. Markets are all instanced it shouldn't be too difficult you can access the market instances of every city. Ok, do not let us to move a ward of other different city because it would be used for free teleports, but let us to buy from the market search in other city markets.
    a merge wont open up new spots either, itl just make them all the same wards

    why do people think merging the 3 cities is the answer?

    opening up new spots is how to solve it as is, but it could make them more unstable if too many retainers are allowed, the last raise we had was cuz they upgraded the system a bit so it could handle more

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    Jinko Jinko
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    Retainers and the marketwards in general are both stupid idea's, sadly I don't see it being changed much even in 2.0, seems SE like the idea of hordes of NPC's taking up valuable server space and system memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Retainers and the marketwards in general are both stupid idea's, sadly I don't see it being changed much even in 2.0, seems SE like the idea of hordes of NPC's taking up valuable server space and system memory.
    It does appear as if SE are being told to keep the current systems and just expand on them which is a shame, like keeping the classes and Job system instead of just the jobs, and expanding the markets instead of just replacing it with an AH
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    Tyler Wevlum
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    a merge wont open up new spots either, itl just make them all the same wards

    why do people think merging the 3 cities is the answer?

    opening up new spots is how to solve it as is, but it could make them more unstable if too many retainers are allowed, the last raise we had was cuz they upgraded the system a bit so it could handle more
    I think what he means is make it so that you can item search other cities and then buy from the item search menu not actually merge the cities just link them.

    EDIT; Which would be a great idea in my opinion.

    Can't help but think server merge could have been planned better to be honest considering this plus the fact servers have been crashing all over the place...also Ul'duh Inn isn't temporarily restricted since it's been quite a while now.
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    Last edited by Wevlum; 04-17-2012 at 01:22 AM.
    The Ul'duh Inn is like an antique shop...full of crap and always closed.
    "You don't have to say anything, I just look at your life now and work backwards." - Black Books

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